Is there any other way of sending donations other than paypal? I dont know how to use it. Maybe W/U or online banking?
You can go to paypal.com and you dont have to have an account, I dont think. I think you can just pay with a credit/debit card without an account.
You can go to paypal.com and you dont have to have an account, I dont think. I think you can just pay with a credit/debit card without an account.
What about setting up a donations category for sending a amazing array of flowers for the ceremony. I think that would be a great way to show the appreciation, whether you liked him or not. He did do a lot for the forum, good or bad but he seemed to try to be fair and open minded.
I really would have liked to know what was going on. It seems so sudden and I want to know what was his last "straw". I know there is A LOT going on in the world but what was it what made him feel so low he couldn't escape. I think had he let people know, he would have found MANY people here are suffering through the same thing and maybe they could have found some common ways.
Maybe this is a wake up call for a suicide/depression related forum (private maybe) because this stuff that many of you guys use really puts the body through some stress. I would hel talk to people as I've been dealing with this for some time in one form or another and know many people who haev gone the same route as Grizz.
May peace, joy and rest be with him.
WU costs money, you need to drive to go do it and is overall a pain in the ass. Paypal is free, extremely easy and VERY safe. I've had a paypal account for roughly a decade and NEVER had an issue. They actually were very fast/responsive when I bought some knockoff bullshit from eBay and refunded all of my money almost immediately. I don't like their stance on guns, and would never use them to purchase one or anything relating to them (as I've read reports on them freezing accounts about it and shit like that), but I fully, 100% trust them on anything else for any of you wary about setting up an account. I need to put some $$ in my bank account tomorrow to pay bills, but after I see what I have left (times are tough right now), I will be making a donationWe don't have any way to take donations right now other than paypal. Setting up a paypal account is easy and free guys. If you want to try and set up WU transaction you can email Shaq at the paypal email addy and see if he'd be willing to do that.
while you and I don't agree about AA (my experience with it was much different than yours), I do think it's important to have somebody to talk to when shit seems to be coming apart at the seams. Somewhat along the same lines as a sponsor, but the people in the AA meetings I attended were fucking dirtbags that took advantage of people when they were vulnerable. I'm with you on the "if you don't have someone to talk to, drop me a line" thing though. I may not tell you what you want to hear, but I will tell you the truthHe talked to me a lot about his alcoholism and addiction although alcoholism is the one that he struggled with non-stop. He knew what he had to do to get sober. Tiffany sent me a message last night that was really nice. To be honest, if anyone really wants to know, he wanted to go to AA but couldnt get past the issue of not believing in any god. I tried to tell him, he didnt have to believe in any particular thing. I gave him many different examples. He knew how I got sober and knew it wasnt with any conventional or religious "god", but he would just tell me that I was different, not like most people that were in AA. There were times when he was really low, instead of me not pushing meetings or anything (I am not that type of person), I would just finally say, "grizz....please just go to a fucking meeting already". I would tell him not to worry about the god things, just go and check it out since nothing else was working, then he said he would but he didnt. He did go with Tiffany for a couple weeks I think but he ended up just going back to the bottle. The "last straw", I'm sure was he just couldnt take it anymore. He knew he wasnt in any position to do anything to stop, so he just ended it. If only I could have given him a small glimpse of what I have in my life.....to the point that he could have felt it.....then maybe he could have had some willingness. If you cant stop and years of a struggle go by, what other choice do you have when the alcohol and drugs dont do the trick anymore? I've seen it before and have had close friends die, but with Jeff, it affected me more. I had a gun in my mouth before I got sober and felt like i couldnt take it for another minute, somehow I was able to muster up a little bit of willingness. I have already said this here, but if anyone and I mean anyone is struggling and wants to talk about it, feel free to PM me. I dont care if you are new, a vet, whatever......I really am more than willing to help if I can. You really dont have to feel how you are feeling anymore.