Guys that want to gain 25+lbs per cycle.
- Thread starter Phreezer
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adding gains like that is def tough on the ligaments and joints...I've never taken steroids, but the rate at which I gain strength and size has def taken it's toll on my knees and elbows. Good training routines are always a plus. Simply going on a weightlifting website and imitating a workout is never a good idea. Read books about strength training or talk to the experts.
deadliftabc
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I agree, copying someone els's routine is not the way to go.
x45.SuPeRmAn.45x
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best Fuckin Post Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every Person And Especially Younger Guys Need To Read This Shit!!!!!! Great Post Bro Your The Man!!!
JUICE JUNKY
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MAN THAT WAS WELL SAID, SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE I KNOW!
mad mardigan
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Give 'em hell Phreeze!
bigKB
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Great post Phreezer.
You have done a great job of summing up steroid use as we know it today. To put it bluntly, generally, the use of steroids nowadays has just become pathetic.
There are so many people out there experimenting with these drugs in such a way as though they are some kind of "miracle pills", and on top of that, using them without doing any kind of research first to find out the proper and safest way to use them. Just as you have explained, there is not only a proper and safe way to use them, but there is specific TIME to begin using them.
I am 39 years old now, and I didn't start using steroids until I was 32 years old. I weighed 265 lbs at 6'0". Granted, about 40 lbs of that was fat, but still, I tried to build up a good foundation of size and strength before doing my first cycle. I also started studying steroid use about 10 years before I ever did that first cycle.
In bodybuilding, powerlifting or any other sport that requires size, strength, power, or endurance.. proper training, diet, self-discipline and most importantly, KNOWLEDGE and PATIENCE should be well-developed long before there should be any consideration of using steroids.
KB
You have done a great job of summing up steroid use as we know it today. To put it bluntly, generally, the use of steroids nowadays has just become pathetic.
There are so many people out there experimenting with these drugs in such a way as though they are some kind of "miracle pills", and on top of that, using them without doing any kind of research first to find out the proper and safest way to use them. Just as you have explained, there is not only a proper and safe way to use them, but there is specific TIME to begin using them.
I am 39 years old now, and I didn't start using steroids until I was 32 years old. I weighed 265 lbs at 6'0". Granted, about 40 lbs of that was fat, but still, I tried to build up a good foundation of size and strength before doing my first cycle. I also started studying steroid use about 10 years before I ever did that first cycle.
In bodybuilding, powerlifting or any other sport that requires size, strength, power, or endurance.. proper training, diet, self-discipline and most importantly, KNOWLEDGE and PATIENCE should be well-developed long before there should be any consideration of using steroids.
KB
bigKB
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This is exactly what is being explained here. First of all, a 12th grader, or a 17 or 18 year old, should not even be using steroids, or even think about using them for several more years.
Secondly, at that age, and bodyweight, one could easily gain 60 lbs naturally... easy... I did that at that age myself. So, to use steroids to gain that weight, at that age is just plain stupid.
Nothing else needs to be said. Read Phreezer's post, and go by it.
KB
Lines like....
Don't do steroids unless you've past your genetic potential naturally
and people who do lose their muscle because they used steroids.
Get stale. It's simply not true. Muscle won't magically disappear and that 20 pounds gained can be maintained and grown on. Turning these rants into stickies is similar to the threads that say 250mgs of test is all you really need.
If you don't think people should do steroids because they lack the maturity to make informed decisions then say so. Don't pretend that all things being equal that steroids only work for the pure of mind. They aren't psychic and they don't have morals.
That's my little rant.
Don't do steroids unless you've past your genetic potential naturally
and people who do lose their muscle because they used steroids.
Get stale. It's simply not true. Muscle won't magically disappear and that 20 pounds gained can be maintained and grown on. Turning these rants into stickies is similar to the threads that say 250mgs of test is all you really need.
If you don't think people should do steroids because they lack the maturity to make informed decisions then say so. Don't pretend that all things being equal that steroids only work for the pure of mind. They aren't psychic and they don't have morals.
That's my little rant.
I have no idea... You're talking about children taking steroids that have no business taking steroids. There aren't enough studies (nor do I think there ever will be) to answer questions like this. How can anyone know what a year of Steroid usage would do to a 17 year olds body????
I've seen lots of guys graduate high school at 140lbs and then fill out in their early 20's around 190lbs completely natural with not much weight training. Some people develop later than others.
As a male you are still physically growing and developing up until around 20 years old. My post is geared more towards people who have reached a decent physical maturation. Not for children.
You obviously need to re-read what I wrote. LMAO.. Who said anything about steroids working for the pure of mind??? Where the fuck did that comment come from...? And making reference to morals or psychic? Where did I imply anything like that? Or that steroids don't work.. They work too well for guys who aren't ready for them.. that's my point. Talk about twisting what I said into some seriously misinterpreted mess.
I'm sorry but it takes time for the body to acclimate itself to serious weight fluxuations.. regardless of what you say. The first time you come off the bean your body will try and shed that weight because it's not use to it. The human body doesn't like to adapt overnight to anything. It takes years for the body to get accustomed to serious changes. That's why you never see any guys who have been bodybuilding for a year taking steroids stepping onto a pro stage.. That's why you don't see guys skinny one month and three months later fat as fuck.. HOMEOSTASIS is something the human body fights for..
But whatever, it's my opinion. If you don't like it.. that's fine. It's your right to disagree.
Cheers!
Oh.. and one more thing. I'll make whatever I want a sticky in this forum.. I created it. I hang what I want on my walls.. If you don't like the decor.. stay out of my house.
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stevo
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I agree with 90% of your original statement. I disagree with the last paragraph. When Im in a room I dont stick out as a bodybuilder, I do look semi fit. I feel I have reached my gen potential. Im 30 6 foot-185, I have been training for seven years, have made constant improvements in my training and diet. Without 2-3 cycles a year, Im a steady 170. My gen are horrible. I just recently learned how to keep gains when off cycle, by low dose dbol for two months after. I know everyone is different , and Im not attacking your statement, just trying to add to it.
You make sense dude. Not all bodybuilders are 250+ pound guys and not everyone defines success as how big you get. People suspect that I'm a bodybuilder or as a women in the office recently observed, "into some kind of athletics". But, at a contest weight of about 180# and 5'10", my involvement in the sport doesn't exactly scream out
. And you know what? That is fine with me. I think the spirit of 11's post is that most kids have zero business doing the stuff. You know what, and this will proabbly piss everyone off, I would say probably 90% of the people on these boards have no business doing it. Most dont compete and have absolutely no intention of doing so. Taking these drugs to look big around the gym or to impress people when you're out partying is just insane! But, Whatever. I do and have done plenty of stupid shit in my life so I'm in no position to judge anyone. I just hope these young bro's are being safe and looking out for their long term health.
babybull34
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Awesome post Phreezer, glad it was "stickified"