Guys that want to gain 25+lbs per cycle.

Dustined83

Well-known member
i know this is an old thread but I've got to give it a bump. i started juicin at 17 because my older cousins were. my t levels are paying for it now too. if you're 25 or younger please try to be patient. i know it sucks but it pays in the long run
 

MorganKane

Super Moderator
Staff member
I eat as much as I should. My metabolism might be too high. But what I've been looking at is anabolics.com, everything is in pill form. Do you guys know anything about this or should I stay away from it?

Obviously you dont eat enough as you should or you would be putting on weight regardless of AAS.
 

Thadiator

New member
This post was awesome.....im no stranger to the gym but relatively new to the idea of giving my body/workout a boost. After reading this i took an honost look at myself and my goals and was able to make a better decision......so from somebody that was kinda on the fence about the sauce....thankyou
 

hog

Member
Badass post, like many of the others have said, I have learned the hard way as well. In high school I always hung out with the older crowd some had graduated and some were even 10years older than me. I started about 17 years old with just about 250mgs of sustanon every week trying to get ready for the upcoming football season. I was 6'5" 185lbs when I started. Never put on much mass but I got way more explosive and aggressive. I fell in love with the feeling of injections. A year or so past I did a couple more little cycles encluding winni, eq, etc w/o any pct. which is very stupid but I didn't have no good lead or anyone putting sense into my head I just wanted to be bigger than the average person. Freshman year of college rolled around and I started working at a gym. I had been off everything for a good year. And I got the urge for more boost. I was the weighing 215, I had never dropped back down to 185 but I ate good and stayed hard at it in the gym. Didn't have near as much strength though. I got back in touch with some old buddies and my journey started again. Ran some straight testE250 500 mg a week for about a month or two, ate a lot. I was getting strength back, and was trying to hop on any piece of a** I seen. Took off for about a month. Then wanted some more, I was addicted it felt like but all my buddies could get at the time was tren. So like a dumba** I ran straight tren for a month. Still going strong I was real impressed with myself. People would ask me to train them, & give them advice everyday I was at work. Finally about 2 or 3 months pass by and the hook up was gtg I got a cycle then. I ran testE250 1000mgs a week with 200mg of tren can't remember what kind and some anadrol as a pre workout, and ate dbol like candy, I was a monster after 8 weeks I was 6'5" 270lbs with like 7-10% body fat. Wearing 34s in pants. Couldn't wear pants bc my legs were too big to be comfortable. I was never an ab guy so I didn't work my core much and didn't try to cut, I was all about bulking, but I had definition and you could see my abs, it was like I didn't have to work so hard to stay cut so I built up to be the biggest and strongest I could. My plans were to take time off a cycle. And get back at it a couple months down the road but I ended up getting news I was going to be a father. Being 21 years old, minimum wage job still living at home with a kid on the way had my mind going all different directions, I just knew my bodybuilding dreams were over. So I started hanging with the wrong crowd again but it wasnt buddies who went to the gym it was drug addicts I got addicted to meth and lost everything. By the time January 2014 rolled around I was 22 6'5" 211lbs. I finally got my shit together and tried to become a family man. I started back to training hard 5-6 days a week. Shot up 240 in two weeks just from eating right and lifting hard. And of course staying off dope. I stalled out at 240-250 for about a year or so. I got ahold of some sustanon and testE250 and was back to taking just 500mgs a week. And took a pro hormone with it and got back to my size I loved. Now I'm 24 haven't done anything in a little under 2 years. I struggle day to day with strength, sex drive, energy. I am a lot fatter, weighing 265. I still lift as much as I can but I work in the oil field so I work long hours and different shifts. I can't get rid of fat around my nipples from suffering with gyno, I never once did any kind of pct. at the age I am now I should still be able to just think about sex and get an erection but I have to get prescribed medications just to have sex. For you younger guys in high school or in college please do research. I promise you I beat myself up everyday over the dumba** decisions I have made. Enjoy life and take it slow, you will grow naturally it just takes time(years). A house is built from the foundation up build your bodies foundation first. Sorry for such a long post but I have experienced the young and dumb life style. I'm still young but do not feel like it. It was a lesson learned and I will spread this word until I kick over the bucket.
 
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TheMoney

New member
As a newb who came onto the forum, I really thought this post was going to be about increasing calorie intake :ROFLMAO:.

For those who've been training for a bit, if I'm in the group that hasn't gained mass but is going first cycle to put weight on, any recommendations apart from cooldown and warm ups to reduce risk of ligament and tendon injuries?
 

Bealthy

New member
@TheMoney, you have the right idea of doing correct warm ups and cooldowns but if you really want to gain mass you should focus on compound exercises and never forget leg day! Leg training actually adds to your upper body mass gain!
 

Xxplosive

Well-known member
If you take a pro BB who knows how to eat, train and has a foundation to build off of and you take him off the kryptonite for a few months, you know what happens? He is gonna shrink at least 25 lbs! Even if he keeps lifting and calorie intake up, he might weigh the same, but get fatter and lose muscle.

Not sure I buy that all pro BB’s waited until 23-26 yo to juice. I personally don’t at all.

If you’re a skinny weak punk, you will NEVER look jacked naturally. I’m not talking about athletic skinny, I’m talking skinny weak punk. Diet and training alone will never overcome shit genetics, they will just make someone with shit genetics be able to look average.

I love how everyone assumes all 17 go’s have the same hormone levels, there are some with test well above 900ng’s, and some who in the 400-500’s.

If a kid is naturally gifted and 900+ then he should milk it and eat all the protein in sight and lift. If he’s not, his progress will be negligible compared to juice.

I know that’s not the popular answer, but not every kid has great natural hormone levels to milk.
 

Xxplosive

Well-known member
Also will add… those are the kids running Test/deca/dbol and gaining a bunch of water that falls off. They never gained 25 lbs of muscle to begin with.
 

Xxplosive

Well-known member
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NEVER SKIP LEG DAY!!!!

Unless you have reconstructed knees, a shaky back, psyatich nerve damage, etc.

There is a difference between “train through the pain” and push the envelope when your injured and deteriorating.
 

Xxplosive

Well-known member
I agree 100% I was referring to those who just skip leg day because it sucks...

Lol dude if i had skipped more leg days, I’m not be 1/4 crippled by now. I used to annihilate legs in my 20’s even on a reconstructed knee to where I’d barely be able to walk out the gym. Was still squatting heavy regularly in my early 30’s…. My back starts to give out and I get psyatic nerve pain from hell if I attempt any kinda squats now. Just not worth it.
 

Triposinator

Active member
Lol dude if i had skipped more leg days, I’m not be 1/4 crippled by now. I used to annihilate legs in my 20’s even on a reconstructed knee to where I’d barely be able to walk out the gym. Was still squatting heavy regularly in my early 30’s…. My back starts to give out and I get psyatic nerve pain from hell if I attempt any kinda squats now. Just not worth it.

four knee surgeries convinced me. Now I’m doing lighter weight and 20 rep sets. Still not complying with the docs - they want 30 rep sets.
 

Bloomsbury2009

New member
If you take a pro BB who knows how to eat, train and has a foundation to build off of and you take him off the kryptonite for a few months, you know what happens? He is gonna shrink at least 25 lbs! Even if he keeps lifting and calorie intake up, he might weigh the same, but get fatter and lose muscle.

Not sure I buy that all pro BB’s waited until 23-26 yo to juice. I personally don’t at all.

If you’re a skinny weak punk, you will NEVER look jacked naturally. I’m not talking about athletic skinny, I’m talking skinny weak punk. Diet and training alone will never overcome shit genetics, they will just make someone with shit genetics be able to look average.

I love how everyone assumes all 17 go’s have the same hormone levels, there are some with test well above 900ng’s, and some who in the 400-500’s.

If a kid is naturally gifted and 900+ then he should milk it and eat all the protein in sight and lift. If he’s not, his progress will be negligible compared to juice.

I know that’s not the popular answer, but not every kid has great natural hormone levels to milk.
This is really the truth, im an ectomorph, not the worst, I have good legs, broad shoulders but really small arms(now with added fat in my early 30s lol) and it sucks. At my peak I ate 6 full meals a day (4 were chicken and rice) plus 2 oat+protein powder shakes, I weighed my food, everything just to look a like high school football player.

Have done 2 cycles of Dbol (after a lot of research, did it properly) cos i didn't know how to inject, didn't have anyone to show me, the only time I looked like I lifted (just about) was when i did those cycles.

Back on this site after 11 years away, this Forum is awesome learned so much the first time round and remember this OP well.
 
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