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Old 12-31-2018, 09:51 AM
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I have been taking steroids for over 20 years and have learned the hard way through trial and error which drugs work best for me. My main drug of choice is Equipoise dosed at 500 to 750mg per week combined with lower dose testosterone enanthate at 250mg per week for a combined total of no more than 1000mg of anabolics per week for 20 week blast and cruise cycles with 8 weeks cruising in between at 250mg of testosterone per week every 7 days. I also use Arimidex when needed. I'm 47 years old at this point so when cruising i use just enough testosterone to maintain my current musculature at 250lbs at 5'8". and retain sex drive. I settled for Equipoise because I am very sensitive to androgens. I love testosterone but any more than 500mg per week and I blow up like a water balloon and end up spending more money on anti-estrogens and blood pressure medication than I am on the testosterone itself! If I was not so sensitive I would just use testosterone up to 1000mg per week and cruise at 250mg per week as this is all that would ever be needed from my experience if cycled correctly depending on your goals.

Equipoise has the same anabolic or muscle building properties as testosterone with an anabolic rating of 100 and an androgenic rating of 50 which is half that of testosterone. Meaning less conversion of estrogen thus water retention, bloat and side affects. It also does not give you prolactin issues associated with the use of other compounds like Deca Durabolin or Trenbolone. From my experience with this drug over 20 years it will give you similar muscle gains as testosterone without the bloat if dosed correctly at 500 to 750mg per week and used for longer cycles for 20 weeks due to the slow undecelate ester Equipoise is attached too. You won't start seeing its effects until about 5 weeks. Unlike testosterone which really starts kicking in three weeks. Guys that complain about this drug being not effective simply are not taking it long enough to get the desired result! Or it's an underdosed product. Equipoise when used correctly can be a great tool to help anyone reach their muscular goals with less side effects. For you young guys out there please do not fall into this trap that you need high doses of drugs to reach your goals. It is simply not true. What you need is sound nutrition and hard training and most of all patience. These drugs are simply a tool to help you reach your goals they will not do it for you and you need to understand the difference.

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EQ was murder on my blood, man. Do you donate, or what? How do you combat that issue, or is it even an issue for you? Masteron has been the game changer, for me.
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Why do you choose eq over masterton or primo? I feel both achieve close to the same goal, if not do a better job of it. Eq makes me so hungry that it is a problem. It kind of is like the munchies from weed where I never get full
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EQ was murder on my blood, man. Do you donate, or what? How do you combat that issue, or is it even an issue for you? Masteron has been the game changer, for me.
I do donate blood once per month throughout the year. I also take 10mg of Lipitor per day to counter the bad effects of steroids in general. Controls the lowering of bad chlorestrol and improves my lipid profile to where everything stays almost normal. I get blood work done three times per year. In fact any one that takes any steroids on and off long term should be on a statin and donating blood and getting blood work done. If not you are setting yourself up for heart issues or a heart attack down the road.

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Why do you choose eq over masterton or primo? I feel both achieve close to the same goal, if not do a better job of it. Eq makes me so hungry that it is a problem. It kind of is like the munchies from weed where I never get full
I love Masteron and Primo the problem for me is I don't like injecting all the time with Masteron, and Primobolin which I think is an amazing steroid is so expensive if your getting the good stuff that the cost does not justify it for me. I have yet to find an underground lab that comes even close to real Primobolin from Bayer.
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The key with Equipoise is first you need to be patient with it. Meaning you have to take it for a twenty week cycle to get the most out of it. The second factor is getting quality Equipoise. There is alot of underdosed or fake garbage out there! Suck it up and go buy a roid test and test the drugs you are taking so you know you are getting the steroid you are supposed to be getting. Finally you need to take a proper dose of Equipoise I have found that 500 to 750 mg of properly dosed product is perfect to make good solid gains over twenty weeks. Less than this just does not cut it with this drug.
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All of these interesting side effects peaple claim with Equipoise seems odd to me considering I have been using and experimenting with this drug for 20 years. For example the claim that Equipoise increases red blood cells more than any other steroid is just ridiculous to me considering that this is the main steroid that I have used to build my physique over many years of using this drug. Equipoise is simply altered Testosterone designed to be less androgenic and that's it! All Anabolic steroids increase red blood cells period! Equipoise does not do this any differently than testosterone would. Unless someone can show me clinical proof they can shove that theory up there ass! So many guys tend to just parrot information they read on the web and have never really even used this drug extensively enough to really even have a valid opinion.

The other side effect is extreame hunger! OMG where does this shit come from considering the fact that no one is using this drug without testosterone if they are using it correctly. To even soley blame Equipoise for their extreame hunger seems crazy and unfair! what about the testosterone or other drugs they are taking with it? It can't be those drugs it must be the Equipoise. Give me a break! Anytime i start a cycle my training intensity goes up and my hunger increases as a result of the increased demand I am placing on my body. I mean it's common sense right? One more time for the cheap seats! Equipoise is just an altered form of testosterone!
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All of these interesting side effects peaple claim with Equipoise seems odd to me considering I have been using and experimenting with this drug for 20 years. For example the claim that Equipoise increases red blood cells more than any other steroid is just ridiculous to me considering that this is the main steroid that I have used to build my physique over many years of using this drug. Equipoise is simply altered Testosterone designed to be less androgenic and that's it! All Anabolic steroids increase red blood cells period! Equipoise does not do this any differently than testosterone would. Unless someone can show me clinical proof they can shove that theory up there ass! So many guys tend to just parrot information they read on the web and have never really even used this drug extensively enough to really even have a valid opinion.

The other side effect is extreame hunger! OMG where does this shit come from considering the fact that no one is using this drug without testosterone if they are using it correctly. To even soley blame Equipoise for their extreame hunger seems crazy and unfair! what about the testosterone or other drugs they are taking with it? It can't be those drugs it must be the Equipoise. Give me a break! Anytime i start a cycle my training intensity goes up and my hunger increases as a result of the increased demand I am placing on my body. I mean it's common sense right? One more time for the cheap seats! Equipoise is just an altered form of testosterone!
Dude not going back and forth but eq raises my bp my blood gets to thick the doc said my red blood cells are dam near 3 times of that on test alone so yes it does make blood thick by doing this bp goes up and yes it makes red blood cells go up it does not make me hungry tho

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How do you donate once a month? Red cross is every 58 days. Unless you are some how cheating the system or are on prescription phlebotomy.

Second eq does raise your blood pressure and red blood cell count. Remember eq was made for race horses. Raising red blood cell count gives more endurance. Sort of like epo. But at a certain point bp has to go up and blood pressure meds come into play. Id love to use eq again but my rbc, hemocrit, hemoglobin count are up just from test. Eq, drol, and the like that drive up the rbc.
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How do you donate once a month? Red cross is every 58 days. Unless you are some how cheating the system or are on prescription phlebotomy.

Second eq does raise your blood pressure and red blood cell count. Remember eq was made for race horses. Raising red blood cell count gives more endurance. Sort of like epo. But at a certain point bp has to go up and blood pressure meds come into play. Id love to use eq again but my rbc, hemocrit, hemoglobin count are up just from test. Eq, drol, and the like that drive up the rbc.
It's actually every 56 days to donate whole blood which I do. I did not think I had to be so specific sorry. Any steroid can raise your blood pressure as they all increase your red blood cells. All I'm saying is that Equipoise does not do this to any degree higher than any other steroid. If so prove it! Because my blood work at the 20 week mark of even taking 750mg of Equipoise per week my hematocrit level was only 52 and my chloresterol was only 228. Now like I stated earlier I also take 10mg of lipitor to control chloresterol and improve blood lipids I also donate blood every 56 days because I know what I'm doing. These test are what i am basing my information on. For the past 10 years now the test all come back around the same give or take alittle. I'm healthy as hell because I take these precautions. I have one real close friend of mine who is only 45 years old and has been taking just testosterone at 500mg per week non stop for over 15 years. He has never used any precautions and now has two stints in his heart because his arteries where all blocked up and his blood was as thick as motor oil. Damn shame great guy with a wife and three kids.

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Why do you choose eq over masterton or primo? I feel both achieve close to the same goal, if not do a better job of it. Eq makes me so hungry that it is a problem. It kind of is like the munchies from weed where I never get full
Masteron/Primo are good for drying out, pure strength and cutting. You'll get a bit of QUALITY size from primo.

EQ is a much better option for putting on pure size and filling out.

I love what EQ does for me physically, but the anxiety is too much for me to deal with.
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I love Masteron and Primo the problem for me is I don't like injecting all the time with Masteron, and Primobolin which I think is an amazing steroid is so expensive if your getting the good stuff that the cost does not justify it for me. I have yet to find an underground lab that comes even close to real Primobolin from Bayer.
I know a damn good source for primo and you don't get ripped off for it, either.
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I understand ur all for eq but as far as blood goes eq is far worst then any other anabolic i dont have my old blood work results from a while back but test alone really doesnt cause thies issues for me taking precautions of not eq raises red blood cells to a far worst degree i have never had to donate blood but my doc told me during my run with eq that if my blood got and thicker they would have to draw and put me on a blood thinner im not saying it isnt a good compond but if it causes thies spikes in bp and red blood cells then ill stick to other compounds to each is his own but i kno it was hell on my blood and bp went up to a danger level
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Pm me about the primo source please
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It's actually every 56 days to donate whole blood which I do. I did not think I had to be so specific sorry. Any steroid can raise your blood pressure as they all increase your red blood cells. All I'm saying is that Equipoise does not do this to any degree higher than any other steroid. If so prove it! Because my blood work at the 20 week mark of even taking 750mg of Equipoise per week my hematocrit level was only 52 and my chloresterol was only 228. Now like I stated earlier I also take 10mg of lipitor to control chloresterol and improve blood lipids I also donate blood every 56 days because I know what I'm doing. These test are what i am basing my information on. For the past 10 years now the test all come back around the same give or take alittle. I'm healthy as hell because I take these precautions. I have one real close friend ofp mine who is only 45 years old and has been taking just testosterone at 500mg per week non stop for over 15 years. He has never used any precautions and now has two stints in his heart because his arteries where all blocked up and his blood was as thick as motor oil. Damn shame great guy with a wife and three kids.
This is from the outlaw steroid profile.

For athletes of sports other than strength sports or bodybuilding will also note that boldenone is quite likely the most favorable steroid for them to use as it also stimulates the release of erythropoeitin in the kidneys. Erythropoeitin is a hormone known as EPO and heavily abused among endurance athletes because it signals the body to increase the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Red blood cells are the carrier of oxygen in the body, meaning that a higher maximal oxygen capacity can be obtained and better performance can be achieved over longer amounts of time before lactic acid is built up, which would in turn result in cramps and a cessation of the activity at that level. In short it improves your stamina. For bodybuilders this characteristic may be useful in promoting increased vascularity
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This is from the outlaw steroid profile.

For athletes of sports other than strength sports or bodybuilding will also note that boldenone is quite likely the most favorable steroid for them to use as it also stimulates the release of erythropoeitin in the kidneys. Erythropoeitin is a hormone known as EPO and heavily abused among endurance athletes because it signals the body to increase the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Red blood cells are the carrier of oxygen in the body, meaning that a higher maximal oxygen capacity can be obtained and better performance can be achieved over longer amounts of time before lactic acid is built up, which would in turn result in cramps and a cessation of the activity at that level. In short it improves your stamina. For bodybuilders this characteristic may be useful in promoting increased vascularity
So instead of listening to a guy with real world experience using this drug for 20 years as my preferred steroid of choice which I think I summed up in great detail with my previous post. You would rather go on the typical copy and paste internet Equipoise drug profile to try and discredit my real multiple year experience with this compound and tell me it works differently somehow from what I experienced and I must somehow be delusional because that's not what the Outlaw Muscle Profile Says! Holy Shit! So let me get this straight. Instead of experimenting with different compounds to see how each one works on my body I should just read what the internet says and just follow it and take the information as law. Wow i'm sorry thank you for the education young buck. Equipoise is Testosterone that has been altered to be 50% less andogenic and that is it. Chemicaly it has not been altered in any other way unless you can prove that it has which you will not be able to do you simply have no case other than bro science and bullshit!

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I have not read a steroid profile as detailed as this , in years.
I have many customers ( some from outlaw ) some arenīt ,and equipoise has been considered a must have substance in their cycles from beginners to pros.
3 things i would like to add to this :

1st . Equipoise is not a very expensive substance to produce , unlike primo, anavar, tren enanthate and so on, so odds are that when you are buying equipoise, you are indeed getting boldenone/equipoise .
As for some other cheap brands out there and human grade replicas labs, its hard for them to come up with the real other more expensives substances .Hence comparison gets compromised

2nd . I would bet that equpoise and test alone equaly increases red blood cells count , but again , proving this obligates to perform a test . same guy tested before and after , and a second test for the other substance on the same guy.

3rd. All in all , internet is full of incorrect info, and OLM is no exception. Even on minor things but thats not the point.
But 20 years experiencing equipoise , 3 times a year blood testing , periodic blood donation etc is far more belivable than any post God know who posted out there. Simply because thats the original point of reading forums like this one. championkoipond has no hidden agenda promoting equipoise over any other substance. GOD i wouldnt be sure of that if it was a supplier as myself doing it. lolol .

Lastly , This one is comun sence. lets stop dogmas on our comunity. Muscleheads or not , we have to be smart enough to read between the lines. Everyone can buy one over the other substance and run their cycles with . But isnt much better when we learn from others experiences before we jump in ?

No desrespect meant to any of the above members, but just think we could all drink from the knowledge and add real self expirences ,if we have some, instead of " i hear this guy or i have read somewhere ..bla bla bla..

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So instead of listening to a guy with real world experience using this drug for 20 years as my preferred steroid of choice which I think I summed up in great detail with my previous post. You would rather go on the typical copy and paste internet Equipoise drug profile to try and discredit my real multiple year experience with this compound and tell me it works differently somehow from what I experienced and I must somehow be delusional because that's not what the Outlaw Muscle Profile Says! Holy Shit! So let me get this straight. Instead of experimenting with different compounds to see how each one works on my body I should just read what the internet says and just follow it and take the information as law. Wow i'm sorry thank you for the education young buck. Equipoise is Testosterone that has been altered to be 50% less andogenic and that is it. Chemicaly it has not been altered in any other way unless you can prove that it has which you will not be able to do you simply have no case other than bro science and bullshit!
Yes i have done plenty of eq. So ill go on my experience. And im talking real eq,
Good eq. Back when it was 50mg per cc. With 20 years of experience you should remember those days. Personally for me there are some steroids that raise red blood cell count and thicken blood more than others.
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So instead of listening to a guy with real world experience using this drug for 20 years as my preferred steroid of choice which I think I summed up in great detail with my previous post. You would rather go on the typical copy and paste internet Equipoise drug profile to try and discredit my real multiple year experience with this compound and tell me it works differently somehow from what I experienced and I must somehow be delusional because that's not what the Outlaw Muscle Profile Says! Holy Shit! So let me get this straight. Instead of experimenting with different compounds to see how each one works on my body I should just read what the internet says and just follow it and take the information as law. Wow i'm sorry thank you for the education young buck. Equipoise is Testosterone that has been altered to be 50% less andogenic and that is it. Chemicaly it has not been altered in any other way unless you can prove that it has which you will not be able to do you simply have no case other than bro science and bullshit!
I have done EQ numerous times and is VERY effective.

But yes, it jacks up your RBC count and makes your blood thick.

I went in to gef a routine std check up while on cycle few months ago. Pricked my finger for the HIV test-- nurse had to squeeze the fuck out of my finger to get a drop out, my blood was so thick.

What happened next was the scariest 7 days of my life- a questionable result and "maybe" reading on my HIV test!!

Doctor told they were gonna take a larger sample and send to lab to confirm.... At tbs time i didnt take into account my EQ uae and was a wreck.

I looked up what could trigger a false positive on an HIV test, low and behold-- sticky blood and high rbc count!!

Went back next week and doc told me i was fine. Breathed.

It's ok to like and even love EQ... But don't say ridiculous shit like side effects of it are bogus and bro science. Not only is it flat out factually incorrect, it could lead to someone who shouldn't be fuckin with it seriously hurting themselves bc they believed what you wrote.

If EQ doesn't thicken your blood, congratulations on your anomaly. Everyone is different physiologically and won't necessarily have the same reaction.
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In the past I only used it about 4 to 8 weeks a year

Usually November thru December when I drop everything except very low test and a low dose of EQ

But then I saw a totally ‘gay’ video but the topic and main content intrigued me

The point of this totally faggy video was the idea of using EQ as a year round staple

Made me reconsider it a bit more again anyways .......

This is old school but I believe I read an article about mike Quinn..... he was doing a 6 week blast with EQ then 2 weeks off then another 6 week blast ..... not sure if that’s actuslly true but definitely not the ‘norm’ by today’s usage
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No offense but steroids especially eq effect everyone differently just because you have had great results using eq for 20 years doesn't mean everyone is going to get the same results.one of the biggest problem for me is the anxiety issues I get while running it. I can't deal with it and my blood pressure goes up and I'm already on BP meds so it's great that eq works so good for you i wish i could get away with using it without the anxiety issues and blood pressure issues.
Bayer primo is my no.1 choice with test and var and i don't get any sides other than lower back pumps from the var but nothing beats that skin bulging pumps in the gym from 50mg of var, primo and test.
That's just my opinion like i said everybody reacts differently.






UOTE=championkoipond;2156496]So instead of listening to a guy with real world experience using this drug for 20 years as my preferred steroid of choice which I think I summed up in great detail with my previous post. You would rather go on the typical copy and paste internet Equipoise drug profile to try and discredit my real multiple year experience with this compound and tell me it works differently somehow from what I experienced and I must somehow be delusional because that's not what the Outlaw Muscle Profile Says! Holy Shit! So let me get this straight. Instead of experimenting with different compounds to see how each one works on my body I should just read what the internet says and just follow it and take the information as law. Wow i'm sorry thank you for the education young buck. Equipoise is Testosterone that has been altered to be 50% less andogenic and that is it. Chemicaly it has not been altered in any other way unless you can prove that it has which you will not be able to do you simply have no case other than bro science and bullshit![/quote]
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I have not read a steroid profile as detailed as this , in years.
I have many customers ( some from outlaw ) some arenīt ,and equipoise has been considered a must have substance in their cycles from beginners to pros.
3 things i would like to add to this :

1st . Equipoise is not a very expensive substance to produce , unlike primo, anavar, tren enanthate and so on, so odds are that when you are buying equipoise, you are indeed getting boldenone/equipoise .
As for some other cheap brands out there and human grade replicas labs, its hard for them to come up with the real other more expensives substances .Hence comparison gets compromised

2nd . I would bet that equpoise and test alone equaly increases red blood cells count , but again , proving this obligates to perform a test . same guy tested before and after , and a second test for the other substance on the same guy.

3rd. All in all , internet is full of incorrect info, and OLM is no exception. Even on minor things but thats not the point.
But 20 years experiencing equipoise , 3 times a year blood testing , periodic blood donation etc is far more belivable than any post God know who posted out there. Simply because thats the original point of reading forums like this one. championkoipond has no hidden agenda promoting equipoise over any other substance. GOD i wouldnt be sure of that if it was a supplier as myself doing it. lolol .

Lastly , This one is comun sence. lets stop dogmas on our comunity. Muscleheads or not , we have to be smart enough to read between the lines. Everyone can buy one over the other substance and run their cycles with . But isnt much better when we learn from others experiences before we jump in ?

No desrespect meant to any of the above members, but just think we could all drink from the knowledge and add real self expirences ,if we have some, instead of " i hear this guy or i have read somewhere ..bla bla bla..

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I have done EQ numerous times and is VERY effective.

But yes, it jacks up your RBC count and makes your blood thick.

I went in to gef a routine std check up while on cycle few months ago. Pricked my finger for the HIV test-- nurse had to squeeze the fuck out of my finger to get a drop out, my blood was so thick.

What happened next was the scariest 7 days of my life- a questionable result and "maybe" reading on my HIV test!!

Doctor told they were gonna take a larger sample and send to lab to confirm.... At tbs time i didnt take into account my EQ uae and was a wreck.

I looked up what could trigger a false positive on an HIV test, low and behold-- sticky blood and high rbc count!!

Went back next week and doc told me i was fine. Breathed.

It's ok to like and even love EQ... But don't say ridiculous shit like side effects of it are bogus and bro science. Not only is it flat out factually incorrect, it could lead to someone who shouldn't be fuckin with it seriously hurting themselves bc they believed what you wrote.

If EQ doesn't thicken your blood, congratulations on your anomaly. Everyone is different physiologically and won't necessarily have the same reaction.
I am not going to beat a dead horse and keep repeating myself because this is starting to insult my intellect. You obviously were not taking Equipoise by itself to even make the determination that your thick blood was the result of just Equipoise. If you were taking Equipoise by itself than you an idiot anyway! I said nothing that was irresponsible at all in fact if you read my post it's the complete opposite. The fact that your blood was even thick to begin with shows that you are very irresponsible in regards to taking steroids in general. It takes time for your blood to become thick and it does not happen overnight. The fact that you did nothing like taking a statin or donating blood like I was clearly doing above is why your blood was thick and you were having issues. As you can clearly see peaple there is a big difference between guys that know what they are doing and guys that don't. Sorry my friend you are just in way over your head dealing with me and your credibillity just went out the window all because you had to dick measure.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:36 PM
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This guy just has a chip on his shoulders because everyone doesnt has the same reaction to this compoubd and fir the last time thick blood high bp and anxiety are none side effects of eq thats a fact just bevause u dont have thies issues doesnt mean shit ive done test along and low test high eq eq makes blood thick end of story
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