SARM’s Guide Thread (peptides and misc sarm like compounds)

[Mack]

Maybe admin could make a section for SARM’s, misc sarm like compounds, and peptides? (Not GH)

Here’s a starter stick:

MK-677 (Ibutamoren) does a GH release pulse and it has a positive effect on igf-1

Stacked with your regular GH is phenomenal.

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Build Muscle:

#1 mass and strength builder is RAD-140 (Testolone)

#2 mass and strength is LGD4033 (Ligandrol)

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Now cutting fat burning and lean gains need these 3:

Cardarine (GW-501516)

Ostarine (MK-2866, GTx-024)

Andarine (S4, GTx-007)

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Myostatin Inhibitor:

YK-11 this is nice to add for lean Bulker or a gainer cycle because it’s a myostatin inhibitor. 10mg pills

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Peptides:

Anti-obesity Drug: AOD 9604

This has a lot of guys talking. It acts like GH and is really supposed to be excellent in terms of fat burning. Like other peptides this is a dry puck and needs recon with BAC and like GH injected with a slin pin. There is a RC company offering it as a nasal spray which is interesting.

My guess is it may not be as effective for healing recovery and growth(?)

I’m not an expert in this area guys please critique as you see fit.

Mack

 

[MorganKane]

Biggest problem with SARMS is knowing if you have a real product or not.

Only used Cardine out of whats listed here.

 

[Mack]

Agreed. A reputable source here on OLM is working to release their line soon.

 

[MorganKane]

Last month I had blood work for cholesterol.
I came off Cardarine about 2 weeks earlier, maybe less than that.

This week I had blood work again, so about 5 weeks later.
My cholesterol in March:
Total: 104
HDL 40
trig 110

This week
Total 185
HDL 48
Trig 181

I have heard that Cardarine is good for your cholesterol but wonder if its "masking" the real result. My diet hasnt changed that much between so I think the drastic difference over the time period might be due that.

Not sure, just pure speculation.
Its possible the first test was incorrect.
The second results is more in line what I normally see.

Thoughts?

 

[busterhighman]

Biggest problem with SARMS is knowing if you have a real product or not.

This is something I agree with 100%.

We did not go through with this idea, and we will not be going through with this idea, so i feel it's probably okay to share this information:

My best friend and i both spent about 10 years in China. We are both advanced-proficient at Mandarin and well-connected within China, including with the CCP. When we started exploring PEDs, we began toying with the idea of sourcing peptides and sarms and possibly other chems from China.

Despite all of our connections and experience, we decided rather quickly that getting chems sourced from India was preferable to getting them from China. It's just a nightmare doing business with the Chinese and you almost need whomever you are doing business with to be in fear of some very real and direct retaliation.

We agreed that even if a good source was located, there was a real chance that even after multiple good buys, one might just get a box of bullshit. rice powder? maybe. melamine or some other potentially lethally poisonous toxin? not out of the question.

We've also seen a couple of sources for sarms/peps that at one time had reputations that were beyond reproach, that have deteriorated into having pretty unreliable reputations. We suspect that this may well be what happened to these companies. Getting a batch of crap and in ignorance or desperation, trying to pass it off to the customers to recoup the losses.

There's really only 2 ways to do it: 1. HPLC analysis on every batch or 2. have a QC guy on site. Like, your own guy, someone who would be difficult to compromise.

Sometimes when you make an investment of time and money into something and things start going south, you desperately end up throwing good time and money after the bad.

All in all, we decided we didn't want to be owned by our "Research Chem" business. The more we thought about it, the less it seemed like easy money and the more it seemed like gross series of untenable risks.

P.S.
I have a special suspicion about Melanotan. I've never got a bullshit vial of MT2...and as i'm writing this, i can't think of ever hearing of anyone complaining about BS MT2. I think they're making so much of this stuff that it's just cheaper to send the real stuff versus counterfeiting some "jiade" knock-offs. Lots of people want PEDs, but there's certainly vastly more people who wanna be tan, slim and have a boner that works better.

 

[TheMoney]

If you can source CJC1295 and Ipamorelin, it works slightly better than MK677. The issue with MK is the prolonged GH pulse which has been reported to increase insulin resistance and could predispose to Type II DM . CJC and Ipamorelin has a shorter GH pulse so the risk of resistance is lower.

Also because I noticed some issues with fakes, with something like MK or CJC/Ipamorelin, a genuine product is likely to induce a "flush" which feels really good and that's a sign of the GH if I am not mistaken.

Full disclosure, I'm not a doctor but have been advised by a doctor on SARM usage discreetly and try to fact check with scientific articles.

 

[aalosio]

Biggest problem with SARMS is knowing if you have a real product or not.

Only used Cardine out of whats listed here.

Using it now. I'm a fan so far.