“YOUR FIRST CYCLE” – Walkthrough by Phreezer
I wrote this a few years ago for meso but I think it will fit in nicely here as well... I also updated it for 2009
First things first... I AM NOT A DOCTOR! I do not believe in the real use of Steroids. I believe that for Role playing purposes it is fine to discuss the use, but no one SHOULD ever take steroids unless they are under the direct supervision of a doctor!!! Do NOT take what I say Seriously, This thread and all posts that I make on this board are not to be used for real world application. EVERYTHING I SAY IS FOR ROLE PLAYING PURPOSES ONLY! AGAIN!! DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF ILLEGAL DRUGS!
This thread is intended for the “Inexperienced” AAS user. In this thread
I will cover Simple steroid administration and three simple cycles. Along with simple Post cycle recovery, all in One place, so you don’t have to search multiple threads. If you’re about to do your first cycle, I hope you will find this thread beneficial.
I’ll begin with the basics, Needle size, Drawing your oil from a vial,
And injection techniques.
NEEDLE SIZE: Typical needle size for most oils is 22 – 25 gauge 1” – 1 ½”.
For ease of use, I am recommending glute shots. For these I suggest a 24gauge
1 ½” Needle. (A good cheap place to get needles is the needle beast here ... and I'm not just saying that because they are a sponsor here. They really do have a good product that is very cheaply priced compared to most online places and way cheaper than your local pharmacy).
These sites also sell amp openers which is something I also recommend.
A bit of advice from experience. When you buy your syringes order the ones with a 1 1/2 inch 22 gauge needle already on them. Then order an equal amount of 1 inch 25 gauge needles. You simply use the 22 gauge needle to draw with then unscrew if from the syringe and screw on the new clean sterile 25 gauge needle and inject... (read below for more instructions)
DRAWING OIL: First, Remove the cap from your needle; draw back about 1 cc of air.
Insert the needle into the rubber stopper on the vial; slowly push the air inside the vial.
This will increase the pressure inside of the vial making the process of drawing the oil
Easier. Now draw the desired amount. Remove the needle and cap it. Unscrew the old needle and put a new needle on the syringe. Drawing will always dull a Needle. Dull needles hurt, and needles are too cheap to be stingy with them. Change the needle!
Next, turn the syringe up (needle tip up) and slowly press the plunger Until you have a couple of drops of oil come out of the tip, you can tap the syringe to get Any small air bubbles out but it isn’t necessary. For opening amps, obviously an amp opener is easiest. However if you don’t have one or simply don’t want to bother with getting one it’s not that big of a deal. Using a metal file, score the neck of the amp all the way around the amp. Wrap the amp in a Klenex and snap off the top. Inspect the oil for any glass fragments, very rarely do any glass fragments ever get inside the amp. Set the amp down on a flat level surface. Uncap your syringe and put the needle all the way to the bottom of the amp inside one of the corners. Slowly and steadily, draw the oil from the amp by pulling back on the plunger, If your careful, you won’t have to change the needle. If you bump the needle into the glass bottom of the amp, you should probably change it. Believe it or not, this will seriously dull a needle. And Dull needles Hurt.
EDIT: NEW TIP for opening amps. Omnas are great for this. there is a little white dot on the upper neck of the amp. Face that white dot away from you body and if you apply just a little bit of pressure the top snaps right off. No broken glass, no amp opener and no paper towels or scoring the amps with a file. I learned that the dots are indicators for medical personal on how to open amps.
INJECTION TECHNIQUE: You may want to experiment with your injections on an orange before you move onto your body. Locate the outer middle/upper section of your glute. For a picture go to www.spotinjections.com there is even a video that will show you the entire process. The correct injection site is critical. Believe me, you don’t want to
Put a needle into your sciatic nerve. Using your free hand take three fingers and stretch the skin over your injection site. This will keep the needle from bouncing off your skin and will also reduce bleeding and oil leakage after you remove the needle. The hole made
By the injection will become covered by the skin you stretched out of the way.
When you start your injection insert the needle in straight, do not go at a funny angle or move your hand around while inserting. When you insert the needle you may want to go slow (Trust me, it really isn’t that painful). Push the needle all the way in, using two fingers pull the plunger back about a quarter of an inch; check for air bubbles (You should see a couple of small air bubbles come in the chamber of the syringe when pulling back on the plunger) [This is called “ASPIRATING” Never inject any where in your body without first ASPIRATING] If you pull back on the plunger and blood comes into the syringe, Immediately REMOVE the needle from your glute; Your about to inject into a vein and that would be very bad. In fact it can even be dangerous. These types of embolisms are extremely rare like one in a million. Usually the vein will just collapse but worse case scenario the oil could get to your heart and lungs and this would be very painful and potentially deadly. (Again, this is like a one in a million shot... but why take chances? So Aspirate everytime and you'll never have to worry about it)
Now back to Injecting.
You’ve put the needle in, you’ve aspirated, and you’ve got a couple of air bubbles. Now slowly and steadily inject the oil until the syringe is empty. Remember to not inject too fast. Slow down on your injection speed. The muscle can only absorb so much oil so fast. And it's different at different spots in your body. Larger muscles can absorb the oil a little faster than smaller muscles like delts. IIRC muscle tissue can only absorb about 1ml of oil in somewhere around 8-10 seconds. I think it's 12-15 seconds for smaller muscle like delts. If you inject faster than that the fluid will seep out of the injection site.
Now that you're done injecting remove the needle; with an alcohol treated cotton ball apply slight pressure to the injected site and massage gently for about 30 seconds to help disperse the oil. That’s it. Be sure to properly dispose of your needles. It’s not fair to Otto the garbage man if he has to get stuck with one of your used needles because you were too lazy to dispose of it properly.
I hope this didn’t sound Complicated, because it really isn’t. Believe me, I played ball with guys who used AAS, and they couldn’t spell their names the same way twice in a row. If these idiots can do it, so can you.
Now onto cycles. All cycles will be 10 weeks in length and involve bi-weekly injections.
CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because it’s cheap, it’s readily available, it’s quick acting, and it’s very effective. Later on You’ll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.
Week 1-10: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection. Alternate Glutes.
I don’t believe frontloading is really necessary for a first cycle and sustanon is self tapering so you don’t need to worry about slowly lowering the dosage (I believe tapering off is Bullshit anyway, but some people believe in it) I’ll address it if anyone wants me to.
CYCLE TWO: Sustanon and Deca. (Once again I’m using Sustanon as the example but the substitution of Enanthate or Cypionate will yield similar results.
Deca is very good for strength and is helpful in allowing you to keep your gains. It does have some negative side effects. The worst of these being “Deca Dick” Deca shuts down the body’s production of testosterone rather quickly. By itself you will lose your sex drive almost completely. Without Testosterone you will find it difficult to achieve and maintain an erection. (Captain Winky Just won’t stand at attention) This is why it is always recommended to stack Deca with some form of test. Deca also takes longer to clear your system. That is why one will typically stop administering Deca about two weeks prior to the conclusion of your cycle.
Weeks 1-8: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 9-10: 500mg Sustanon
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon
CYCLE THREE: Sustanon, Deca, D-bol
This time we are going to add an oral to the cycle. The injectables will be administered in the same manner as CYCLE TWO.
D-bol is one of the better oral steroids out there, and stacks very well with test and deca. It’s been around for a long time. Arnold was once even quoted saying “D-bol the breakfast of champions”. However D-bol isn’t candy and should be used correctly.
D-bol is 17-alkylated, and as with most orals is hard on the liver. Because of this I recommend buying some Milk thistle and supplementing this along with your cycle. D-bol is fast acting and will give you slight strength and slight mass gains rather quickly.
Some of the sides of D-bol are increased water retention, increased blood pressure, itchy skin, redness of neck and ears. All of these symptoms are fairly mild and differ from person to person. You may experience none of these, some of these or all of these. Everyone is different. Just monitor yourself and if you become too uncomfortable stop using the d-bol.
Weeks 1-4: D-bol 25-30mg ED (Broken up over three dosages through the day) 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 5-8: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 9-10: 500mg Sustanon
THAT’S IT!
Any of these cycles will give you good results providing your training, diet, and rest are all up to par. These cycles will also help give you a better understanding of AAS administration. Whichever one of these cycles you try may depend on your comfort level, your fear, or some financial restriction.
I feel that post cycle recovery needs to be addressed. There is so much information on these available in current threads that I decided to leave it out. If anyone needs info on This I will add it to this thread.
Ok, Here is the addition of Post cycle recovery that I promised. I also added something about opening amps in the drawing your oils section.
EDIT: I feel this info on PCT is out dated and I feel there are much better methods out there now than the way we used to do it.
Currently I believe that running 500 IU's of HCG 2x weekly throughout your entire cycle and for an additional for 4 weeks after is a good protocal. I like arimidex for PCT also and think that taking 1/2mg EOD should be added in the day after your last shot and run for the four weeks with the HCG. THis has been a succesful PCT plan for me in the past. I used to only believe in HCG at the end of a cycle but I had a good buddy talk me into using it during the cycle and it kept testicular atrophy completely away even in weeks 10 and 12.
Some guys may have some better plans out there.. but this is kind of a cookie cutter outline to give you some basic ideas.
I wrote this a few years ago for meso but I think it will fit in nicely here as well... I also updated it for 2009
First things first... I AM NOT A DOCTOR! I do not believe in the real use of Steroids. I believe that for Role playing purposes it is fine to discuss the use, but no one SHOULD ever take steroids unless they are under the direct supervision of a doctor!!! Do NOT take what I say Seriously, This thread and all posts that I make on this board are not to be used for real world application. EVERYTHING I SAY IS FOR ROLE PLAYING PURPOSES ONLY! AGAIN!! DO NOT USE ANY KIND OF ILLEGAL DRUGS!
This thread is intended for the “Inexperienced” AAS user. In this thread
I will cover Simple steroid administration and three simple cycles. Along with simple Post cycle recovery, all in One place, so you don’t have to search multiple threads. If you’re about to do your first cycle, I hope you will find this thread beneficial.
I’ll begin with the basics, Needle size, Drawing your oil from a vial,
And injection techniques.
NEEDLE SIZE: Typical needle size for most oils is 22 – 25 gauge 1” – 1 ½”.
For ease of use, I am recommending glute shots. For these I suggest a 24gauge
1 ½” Needle. (A good cheap place to get needles is the needle beast here ... and I'm not just saying that because they are a sponsor here. They really do have a good product that is very cheaply priced compared to most online places and way cheaper than your local pharmacy).
These sites also sell amp openers which is something I also recommend.
A bit of advice from experience. When you buy your syringes order the ones with a 1 1/2 inch 22 gauge needle already on them. Then order an equal amount of 1 inch 25 gauge needles. You simply use the 22 gauge needle to draw with then unscrew if from the syringe and screw on the new clean sterile 25 gauge needle and inject... (read below for more instructions)
DRAWING OIL: First, Remove the cap from your needle; draw back about 1 cc of air.
Insert the needle into the rubber stopper on the vial; slowly push the air inside the vial.
This will increase the pressure inside of the vial making the process of drawing the oil
Easier. Now draw the desired amount. Remove the needle and cap it. Unscrew the old needle and put a new needle on the syringe. Drawing will always dull a Needle. Dull needles hurt, and needles are too cheap to be stingy with them. Change the needle!
Next, turn the syringe up (needle tip up) and slowly press the plunger Until you have a couple of drops of oil come out of the tip, you can tap the syringe to get Any small air bubbles out but it isn’t necessary. For opening amps, obviously an amp opener is easiest. However if you don’t have one or simply don’t want to bother with getting one it’s not that big of a deal. Using a metal file, score the neck of the amp all the way around the amp. Wrap the amp in a Klenex and snap off the top. Inspect the oil for any glass fragments, very rarely do any glass fragments ever get inside the amp. Set the amp down on a flat level surface. Uncap your syringe and put the needle all the way to the bottom of the amp inside one of the corners. Slowly and steadily, draw the oil from the amp by pulling back on the plunger, If your careful, you won’t have to change the needle. If you bump the needle into the glass bottom of the amp, you should probably change it. Believe it or not, this will seriously dull a needle. And Dull needles Hurt.
EDIT: NEW TIP for opening amps. Omnas are great for this. there is a little white dot on the upper neck of the amp. Face that white dot away from you body and if you apply just a little bit of pressure the top snaps right off. No broken glass, no amp opener and no paper towels or scoring the amps with a file. I learned that the dots are indicators for medical personal on how to open amps.
INJECTION TECHNIQUE: You may want to experiment with your injections on an orange before you move onto your body. Locate the outer middle/upper section of your glute. For a picture go to www.spotinjections.com there is even a video that will show you the entire process. The correct injection site is critical. Believe me, you don’t want to
Put a needle into your sciatic nerve. Using your free hand take three fingers and stretch the skin over your injection site. This will keep the needle from bouncing off your skin and will also reduce bleeding and oil leakage after you remove the needle. The hole made
By the injection will become covered by the skin you stretched out of the way.
When you start your injection insert the needle in straight, do not go at a funny angle or move your hand around while inserting. When you insert the needle you may want to go slow (Trust me, it really isn’t that painful). Push the needle all the way in, using two fingers pull the plunger back about a quarter of an inch; check for air bubbles (You should see a couple of small air bubbles come in the chamber of the syringe when pulling back on the plunger) [This is called “ASPIRATING” Never inject any where in your body without first ASPIRATING] If you pull back on the plunger and blood comes into the syringe, Immediately REMOVE the needle from your glute; Your about to inject into a vein and that would be very bad. In fact it can even be dangerous. These types of embolisms are extremely rare like one in a million. Usually the vein will just collapse but worse case scenario the oil could get to your heart and lungs and this would be very painful and potentially deadly. (Again, this is like a one in a million shot... but why take chances? So Aspirate everytime and you'll never have to worry about it)
Now back to Injecting.
You’ve put the needle in, you’ve aspirated, and you’ve got a couple of air bubbles. Now slowly and steadily inject the oil until the syringe is empty. Remember to not inject too fast. Slow down on your injection speed. The muscle can only absorb so much oil so fast. And it's different at different spots in your body. Larger muscles can absorb the oil a little faster than smaller muscles like delts. IIRC muscle tissue can only absorb about 1ml of oil in somewhere around 8-10 seconds. I think it's 12-15 seconds for smaller muscle like delts. If you inject faster than that the fluid will seep out of the injection site.
Now that you're done injecting remove the needle; with an alcohol treated cotton ball apply slight pressure to the injected site and massage gently for about 30 seconds to help disperse the oil. That’s it. Be sure to properly dispose of your needles. It’s not fair to Otto the garbage man if he has to get stuck with one of your used needles because you were too lazy to dispose of it properly.
I hope this didn’t sound Complicated, because it really isn’t. Believe me, I played ball with guys who used AAS, and they couldn’t spell their names the same way twice in a row. If these idiots can do it, so can you.
Now onto cycles. All cycles will be 10 weeks in length and involve bi-weekly injections.
CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because it’s cheap, it’s readily available, it’s quick acting, and it’s very effective. Later on You’ll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.
Week 1-10: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection. Alternate Glutes.
I don’t believe frontloading is really necessary for a first cycle and sustanon is self tapering so you don’t need to worry about slowly lowering the dosage (I believe tapering off is Bullshit anyway, but some people believe in it) I’ll address it if anyone wants me to.
CYCLE TWO: Sustanon and Deca. (Once again I’m using Sustanon as the example but the substitution of Enanthate or Cypionate will yield similar results.
Deca is very good for strength and is helpful in allowing you to keep your gains. It does have some negative side effects. The worst of these being “Deca Dick” Deca shuts down the body’s production of testosterone rather quickly. By itself you will lose your sex drive almost completely. Without Testosterone you will find it difficult to achieve and maintain an erection. (Captain Winky Just won’t stand at attention) This is why it is always recommended to stack Deca with some form of test. Deca also takes longer to clear your system. That is why one will typically stop administering Deca about two weeks prior to the conclusion of your cycle.
Weeks 1-8: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 9-10: 500mg Sustanon
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon
CYCLE THREE: Sustanon, Deca, D-bol
This time we are going to add an oral to the cycle. The injectables will be administered in the same manner as CYCLE TWO.
D-bol is one of the better oral steroids out there, and stacks very well with test and deca. It’s been around for a long time. Arnold was once even quoted saying “D-bol the breakfast of champions”. However D-bol isn’t candy and should be used correctly.
D-bol is 17-alkylated, and as with most orals is hard on the liver. Because of this I recommend buying some Milk thistle and supplementing this along with your cycle. D-bol is fast acting and will give you slight strength and slight mass gains rather quickly.
Some of the sides of D-bol are increased water retention, increased blood pressure, itchy skin, redness of neck and ears. All of these symptoms are fairly mild and differ from person to person. You may experience none of these, some of these or all of these. Everyone is different. Just monitor yourself and if you become too uncomfortable stop using the d-bol.
Weeks 1-4: D-bol 25-30mg ED (Broken up over three dosages through the day) 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 5-8: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 9-10: 500mg Sustanon
THAT’S IT!
Any of these cycles will give you good results providing your training, diet, and rest are all up to par. These cycles will also help give you a better understanding of AAS administration. Whichever one of these cycles you try may depend on your comfort level, your fear, or some financial restriction.
I feel that post cycle recovery needs to be addressed. There is so much information on these available in current threads that I decided to leave it out. If anyone needs info on This I will add it to this thread.
Ok, Here is the addition of Post cycle recovery that I promised. I also added something about opening amps in the drawing your oils section.
EDIT: I feel this info on PCT is out dated and I feel there are much better methods out there now than the way we used to do it.
Currently I believe that running 500 IU's of HCG 2x weekly throughout your entire cycle and for an additional for 4 weeks after is a good protocal. I like arimidex for PCT also and think that taking 1/2mg EOD should be added in the day after your last shot and run for the four weeks with the HCG. THis has been a succesful PCT plan for me in the past. I used to only believe in HCG at the end of a cycle but I had a good buddy talk me into using it during the cycle and it kept testicular atrophy completely away even in weeks 10 and 12.
Some guys may have some better plans out there.. but this is kind of a cookie cutter outline to give you some basic ideas.
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