Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use and Post Cycle Theropy (PCT)

[Eleven11]

The doc says to use HCG to prevent testicular atrophy. Would it be okay to use it only when your balls start to shrink to bring them back?

How would you keep the HCG for the duration of your cycle, if you can't put a syringe in your fridge?
Can you just add the bac water to the vial the HCG is already in and draw as needed?

I think oral HCG might be the same thing but I don't know if it works the same.

The doc mentions using nolvadex or clomid "all along the way" and "he is now set to continue at the end." Does he mean using nolvadex or clomid on cycle and post?

Would proviron effectively prevent estrogen sides on cycle of dbol/test? Winstrol/test?

Its best to use whole cycle. It's not good to get shut down then bring them back then shut down again. Keep them working.
Yes if it comes in a vial just add BW and put in fridge and draw as needed. if you cant keep in fridge get a small bag type cooler and some ice packs and keep in safe place.
[B]DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ORAL HCG[/B
Some guys are more sensitive to estrogen than others. Proviron might be all you need but maybe have something on hand in case but don't use it unless you need it (talking about AI) not Proviron...................11

 

[simonsquest001]

I've read that HCG should not be continually run, as it loses it's effectiveness after a continued
use of several weeks(>4). Rather, it should be administered periodically during a cycle. Could this be a
more effective way to use HCG?

1-10 Sustanon250 X 1 - EOW
4,8,12,13 HCG 500ui-EOD x 10days (5000ui)

 

[Eleven11]

I've read that HCG should not be continually run, as it loses it's effectiveness after a continued
use of several weeks(>4). Rather, it should be administered periodically during a cycle. Could this be a
more effective way to use HCG?

1-10 Sustanon250 X 1 - EOW
4,8,12,13 HCG 500ui-EOD x 10days (5000ui)

IMO (and many others) no. We are using very low doses and running thru an entire cycle regardless of length is not a problem, especially a 10-16 wker. why go thru a rollercoaster of being shut down just to kickstart them again then shutdown, makes no sense. Keep then stimulated thru entire cycle and recovery will be so much easier.
Im on test yr around and also HCG @ 500ius E5D.
I take a couple wks off the HCG thru out the yr just for the hell of it and Ive had no problems.
I just came off test/HCG for 4wks to get blood work done and to be honest I never felt any difference those last 2wks. Got my BW done and went right back on....................11

 

[kaboom66]

so i bought some hcg...2000ius per kit from hardgain..seems to have solvent with it as well..after adding solvent..where would 250 be on slin?..thanks man!..250 every 3rd day sounds about right??

 

[Eleven11]

so i bought some hcg...2000ius per kit from hardgain..seems to have solvent with it as well..after adding solvent..where would 250 be on slin?..thanks man!..250 every 3rd day sounds about right??

250 e3d is fine.
How much solvent is in amps. Should be 1cc if so then after mixing your HCG you'll have 1cc = 2,000ius if you use a 1cc slinpin numbered 10-100 every 10 mark will be 200ius. Keep it simple and just do 200ius e3d................11

 

[kaboom66]

duhh!tooo simple!hehehe..thanks 11!

 

[simonsquest001]

So, I came across an ad for oral HCG used for dieting.
I was a bit confused, maybe there was ambiguity with
the acronym of the compound?.. But in fact it is the same
compound administered orally oppose to injected.
The about page advertises the benefits of their oral product
of injectable form. Could this be a viable alternative to injecting
every HCG every day on a TEST cycle?.... 11?...
If so, then God bless the free market..

http://www.yourhcg.com/about/hcg-diet/

 

[Eleven11]

So, I came across an ad for oral HCG used for dieting.
I was a bit confused, maybe there was ambiguity with
the acronym of the compound?.. But in fact it is the same
compound administered orally oppose to injected.
The about page advertises the benefits of their oral product
of injectable form. Could this be a viable alternative to injecting
every HCG every day on a TEST cycle?.... 11?...
If so, then God bless the free market..

http://www.yourhcg.com/about/hcg-diet/

sorry just saw this. Im not sold on oral HCG or HGH for that matter.
Use the real thing not some gimmick designed to take advantage of a current fad.
HCG is cheap (not those ridiculous prices shown) $15-$25 a 5,000iu vial . So my advice would be save your $.............11

 

[linus420]

would it be ok to put mixed HCG in an empty roid vile or should i just get a new empty vial..?

 

[Eleven11]

would it be ok to put mixed HCG in an empty roid vile or should i just get a new empty vial..?

I wouldn't because of the oil. Id get a new vial and as long as your keeping it in the fridge you can re use that vial..............11

 

[linus420]

I wouldn't because of the oil. Id get a new vial and as long as your keeping it in the fridge you can re use that vial..............11

Damn...any ideas what I could do until the new vial comes in? Im a week in and need to mix this stuff, I cant keep in a slin pin because the needles aren't replaceable and well I could prolly use a 3ml...

 

[phenom81]

I have heard that you can use a pregnancy test to make sure hcg is legit. Has anyone tried this? Is there a certain type of pregnancy test that I need to do this?

 

[Eleven11]

I have heard that you can use a pregnancy test to make sure hcg is legit. Has anyone tried this? Is there a certain type of pregnancy test that I need to do this?

sorry just saw this.
YES a preg test will tell you if its legit.
Best way to do this is get a test that has the test strip at the end and put some HCG in shot glass and let strip soak in the HCG for a few min, shooting it on there is not as good................11

 

[ExistenceLies]

Just read through entire thread. Good info. Just a few questions. I will be running 600mg of test C weeks 1-10 and then 50mg of Winny Weeks 10-14 along with Adex eod on weeks 4-14. As I saw that you stated Winny is basically done the day after the last pill, but what about test C? Another thing I read was that you said on Test C that HCG should be ran for 18 days after last shot correct? Then to wait at a few days for ester to clear then hop on PCT?

 

[Eleven11]

Just read through entire thread. Good info. Just a few questions. I will be running 600mg of test C weeks 1-10 and then 50mg of Winny Weeks 10-14 along with Adex eod on weeks 4-14. As I saw that you stated Winny is basically done the day after the last pill, but what about test C? Another thing I read was that you said on Test C that HCG should be ran for 18 days after last shot correct? Then to wait at a few days for ester to clear then hop on PCT?

why are you stopping the Cyp at week 10 ? I guess it's not that big a deal as the test will still be working in you for almost 3wks after shot. Id run the test one more week so they clear about the same time.(around wk 14)
As far as the 18days go that only if you stop everything else same time, now with the winny you can keep using it while test is clearing and yes use the HCG at least during this time. I recommend using the whole cycle or as soon as you can get on it. I also like to wait 3days after HCG is stopped before PCT so HCG has a chance to clear. ...................11

 

[ExistenceLies]

why are you stopping the Cyp at week 10 ? I guess it's not that big a deal as the test will still be working in you for almost 3wks after shot. Id run the test one more week so they clear about the same time.(around wk 14)
As far as the 18days go that only if you stop everything else same time, now with the winny you can keep using it while test is clearing and yes use the HCG at least during this time. I recommend using the whole cycle or as soon as you can get on it. I also like to wait 3days after HCG is stopped before PCT so HCG has a chance to clear. ...................11

I think im going to run 250ui e5d with the HCG on my cycle.

 

[Eleven11]

I think im going to run 250ui e5d with the HCG on my cycle.

Thats fine if you see results, if not try e3d 1st or 2xwk then go up in dosage................11

 

[schnellmailman]

Just nolva for PCT?

First cycle: 10 weeks of T-cyp + Deca, with hCG eod.

Can PCT be just nolva for 4 wks (starting 14 days after last AAS shot), and clen for 8 weeks (starting 21 after last AAS shot)? Can't get clomid.

thanks for the input.

 

[Eleven11]

First cycle: 10 weeks of T-cyp + Deca, with hCG eod.

Can PCT be just nolva for 4 wks (starting 14 days after last AAS shot), and clen for 8 weeks (starting 21 after last AAS shot)? Can't get clomid.

thanks for the input.

Nolva will work but you might be want to go 5-6 wks instead of just 4. I don't know why you have clen in there? not for PCT anyway, Id use it during cycle if your going to use it..............11

 

[Hemusselman]

This might be a dumb question but Is bac water the same as starile water?