HCG use and PCT IMO

fray5

Member
This is a normal thing with your boys. And your libido will be down at times as your body is going through some changes right now trying to get back to normal.
If you want to switch to torem then I'd only use that and drop the others. I wouldn't use them together...............11

Ok, I'll just stay the course I'm on. I just want my libido back to what it was. I think I'm going to extend my clomid an extra 2 weeks at a low dose just to be safe. Thanks for your advice, 11.
 

fray5

Member
This is a normal thing with your boys. And your libido will be down at times as your body is going through some changes right now trying to get back to normal.
If you want to switch to torem then I'd only use that and drop the others. I wouldn't use them together...............11

Hey 11, I'm coming to the end of my 4 wk nolva/clomid pct. I have some torem on hand and was thinking of extending pct running it for weeks 5 & 6. I still don't quite feel recovered and I've been reading good things about torem for libido. Would me running this after the nolva/clomid be a bad idea or does it sound ok to you? I'm gonna continue to run a low dose of aromasin with it as well. I just want to take every measure to recover since I ran hcg the last wk of cycle instead of the whole time. Thanks for your time!
 

Eleven11

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Hey 11, I'm coming to the end of my 4 wk nolva/clomid pct. I have some torem on hand and was thinking of extending pct running it for weeks 5 & 6. I still don't quite feel recovered and I've been reading good things about torem for libido. Would me running this after the nolva/clomid be a bad idea or does it sound ok to you? I'm gonna continue to run a low dose of aromasin with it as well. I just want to take every measure to recover since I ran hcg the last wk of cycle instead of the whole time. Thanks for your time!

Well 1st 4 wks is short for a PCT so I can see not totally recovered. I recommend 5-6 wks and stopping clomid at wk 4. then continuing the nolva a couple more weeks.
Id say go ahead with the torem for 2-3 wks. Use it alone not with the others.
Let me know how this goes...............11
 

fray5

Member
Well 1st 4 wks is short for a PCT so I can see not totally recovered. I recommend 5-6 wks and stopping clomid at wk 4. then continuing the nolva a couple more weeks.
Id say go ahead with the torem for 2-3 wks. Use it alone not with the others.
Let me know how this goes...............11

Ok will def keep you updated, 11. Would it be a bad idea to run 25mg of clomid along with the torem and do I still need an ai or would I have enough estro suppression without? Thanks for your advice; I really value your opinion!
 

Eleven11

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Ok will def keep you updated, 11. Would it be a bad idea to run 25mg of clomid along with the torem and do I still need an ai or would I have enough estro suppression without? Thanks for your advice; I really value your opinion!

Not an expert but from what I've seen Torem is best used alone............11
 

notsane01

New member
Just curious anyone else having probs finding bacteriostatic water online? It seems like theres a shortage. I've been using expired bac water, and it seems to be working okay. But I would like to pick up a new batch.
 

Eleven11

Biker/Bowhunter Moderator
Staff member
Just curious anyone else having probs finding bacteriostatic water online? It seems like theres a shortage. I've been using expired bac water, and it seems to be working okay. But I would like to pick up a new batch.

Yes it is hard to find but is out there.
I wouldn't worry to much about the Exp date as long as it's in a cool dark place.............11
 
Hey 11, how long will the hcg last in the refridge. after reconstitution? It is the HG pregnyl 5000 iu in the glass amps + the solvent. I know you said 60 days with bac water. Would that be the case here?
 

Eleven11

Biker/Bowhunter Moderator
Staff member
Hey 11, how long will the hcg last in the refridge. after reconstitution? It is the HG pregnyl 5000 iu in the glass amps + the solvent. I know you said 60 days with bac water. Would that be the case here?

Its more like 30 days with the water it comes with, Id still continue to use it though.
It doesn't magically go bad but it will at that point start to lose it potency so if you start to notice the effect don't increase your dose but increase the days of your dose. ( if your using 500ius E5D then try E4D or E3D )...............11
 

Big_Duke

Active member
Probably been asked, but hell there's 500 posts in here! I've been cruising for almost 4 months now... At 500mg a week right now, about to drop to 250mg a week of Test-E.... Then my next blast is going to be 750mg a week for 10 weeks or so...

I've been running HCG 500mcg per week, 250 a shot split... Should I be g2g to continue to cruise if I keep using the HCG at that dose if I want to come off one day??

Long term plan, I know this sounds malicious, but... I just got a vasectomy and I'm military... I wanna do this cruise then eventually come off... Do a detailed PCT, etc... But then wait and go see an Endo... Tell them since my vasectomy I've felt like my sex drive, muscle mass, etc, have been decreasing and get blood work down for possible TRT.... I want to run the HCG though so I have a chance of still having some levels and not being bottomed out the time I go to an Endo.

Opinions??
 

needzajobnplace

Active member
Probably been asked, but hell there's 500 posts in here! I've been cruising for almost 4 months now... At 500mg a week right now, about to drop to 250mg a week of Test-E.... Then my next blast is going to be 750mg a week for 10 weeks or so...

I've been running HCG 500mcg per week, 250 a shot split... Should I be g2g to continue to cruise if I keep using the HCG at that dose if I want to come off one day??

Long term plan, I know this sounds malicious, but... I just got a vasectomy and I'm military... I wanna do this cruise then eventually come off... Do a detailed PCT, etc... But then wait and go see an Endo... Tell them since my vasectomy I've felt like my sex drive, muscle mass, etc, have been decreasing and get blood work down for possible TRT.... I want to run the HCG though so I have a chance of still having some levels and not being bottomed out the time I go to an Endo.

Opinions??

I was on for almost 8 months using hcg 250iu twice a week n I recovered. Test levels near 600. I can't say u will recover because everyone is different. Best to cycle, past 20 weeks is pushing ur luck. For pct I used toremifene. Next time for pct ill use for toremifene n clomid.
 

Eleven11

Biker/Bowhunter Moderator
Staff member
Probably been asked, but hell there's 500 posts in here! I've been cruising for almost 4 months now... At 500mg a week right now, about to drop to 250mg a week of Test-E.... Then my next blast is going to be 750mg a week for 10 weeks or so...

I've been running HCG 500mcg per week, 250 a shot split... Should I be g2g to continue to cruise if I keep using the HCG at that dose if I want to come off one day??

Long term plan, I know this sounds malicious, but... I just got a vasectomy and I'm military... I wanna do this cruise then eventually come off... Do a detailed PCT, etc... But then wait and go see an Endo... Tell them since my vasectomy I've felt like my sex drive, muscle mass, etc, have been decreasing and get blood work down for possible TRT.... I want to run the HCG though so I have a chance of still having some levels and not being bottomed out the time I go to an Endo.

Opinions??

I keep using HCG even when I cruise, personally if you want the Doc to put you on TRT I wouldn't do a PCT just wait about 4+ wks or so and go get bloodwork, that's what I did............11
 

Eleven11

Biker/Bowhunter Moderator
Staff member
I was on for almost 8 months using hcg 250iu twice a week n I recovered. Test levels near 600. I can't say u will recover because everyone is different. Best to cycle, past 20 weeks is pushing ur luck. For pct I used toremifene. Next time for pct ill use for toremifene n clomid.


No need to use both, Im hearing great thing about Toremifene but use it alone. Clomid and Nolva are best used together..................11
 

bigstick

Member
Great thread. I just read the whole damn thing. Im old school and ran my pct the old way using hcg with nov 2weeks after last shot ester clears then starting clomid after with nov for 4 weeks. My last blood work showed my test levels at 281 after being clean for six months due to injury but my nuts are gone. Im 43 and have been doing some big long cycle over the last 13 yrs. I never really seen much info or protocals on hmg. Any info would be great. Respect.
 
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