Gh Serum Testing Schedule

[BigBadBen]

Whats really fantastic about this is we finally have a site were we all have a common goal which is to sort out good from bad. Nobody can argue with these results when the evidence is mimicked else where.

This is all that peeps on these forums want without the bias that is so rife these days.

This will take off all by itself.....Awesome!!!!!

 

[Elucid]

I don't use GH but this is an awesome thread. Props to the OP and other guys getting bloodwork done.

 

[roidrunner]

As I said before several times in this thread, these are my results on how GH affects my gh serum blood levels. I cannot guarantee you or anyone else will have the same results. We all have different body compositions, receptors, etc.

Regarding the test being skewed, I understand the doubts but I have studies proving that 24hrs is the half-life so to speak of GH in your system. For a long time very very smart people are trying to find anti-doping testing protocols to detect GH in athletes systems. Study after study state the same thing: testing is only effect at a blood serum level if the testing is conducted within a 24 hours period from the injection of GH.

HOWEVER to put any doubt to rest, since most of us are BROs, and don't really believe (or care to read) too many medical studies ( I understand... my eyes gloss over after page 2...where the fuck is the '"results page" and can someone translate this shit to english??) YESTERDAY I DECIDED TO HAVE MY GH BLOOD SERUM TESTED (+/-) 27 HOURS POST INJECTION. HERE ARE THE RESULTS!!!!

0.7 ng/mL -

As everyone can see, GH blood serum levels return to normal VERY QUICKY. In actuality we could test everyday and still get good accurate results since blood serum gh reverts back to normal levels so quickly.


I'm spending a lot of coin in these tests are worth it to cut through the bullshit.

Testing ellis today.

You are a fucking Saint! Can't believe you are doing all this. The time and expense.... You are helping a lot people. Again thank you so much!

 

[madmoe]

IMO what we are doing here is empowering ourselves as the consumer of all this gear and frankly, taking power away from the sources. No more hype, marketing and/or peer pressure from sources, certain boards, mods, whatever. You can go out there and test the gear and call bullshit when you need to.
Sources will have long term clientele by providing a superior product, good customer service and delivering the goods on a timely faction without drama.

Bottom line of this endeavor is to have a place where people can get the info to make an informed decision on what to take or not to take. No more source BS on "how great this XXXX top and this XXXX top is..." Prove it. Now we know: Thanks, Novos, Rips are GTG.

IMHO Too many people worshiping at the Jintropin altar...let's really find out if Jintropin/ and its "generic brother" is the diesel shit that people profess to be or all hype.

I got more tops I will test, but I want to have them on-hand before I disclose what they are. I don't want the sources to know what I am buying. I want to keep it real.

Bros, OLM is GTG. What a great place we got here

 

[jp2007]

Just curious, when did you get the eli's and were they the ones with no vacuum? It seems his new 2012 batch doesn't have a vacuum seal.

 

[madmoe]

Just curious, when did you get the eli's and were they the ones with no vacuum? It seems his new 2012 batch doesn't have a vacuum seal.

I just got them very recently. I will check on the vacuum on Sunday. Remind me please.

 

[snakeskinz]

have some ip hygetropin that i will be testing tomorrow, and will post results along with pic's ....
this is a great thread madmoe ... thanks for getting this thing rolling .....i also have some novos with different batch numbers and exp dates than what you tested so may test next week ....also thanks to the bro who gave the discount code for privatemedlabs on page one of this thread it worked

hagepuwr=is discount code

snake

 

[BigBadBen]

IMO what we are doing here is empowering ourselves as the consumer of all this gear and frankly, taking power away from the sources. No more hype, marketing and/or peer pressure from sources, certain boards, mods, whatever. You can go out there and test the gear and call bullshit when you need to.
Sources will have long term clientele by providing a superior product, good customer service and delivering the goods on a timely faction without drama.

Bottom line of this endeavor is to have a place where people can get the info to make an informed decision on what to take or not to take. No more source BS on "how great this XXXX top and this XXXX top is..." Prove it. Now we know: Thanks, Novos, Rips are GTG.

IMHO Too many people worshiping at the Jintropin altar...let's really find out if Jintropin/ and its "generic brother" is the diesel shit that people profess to be or all hype.

I got more tops I will test, but I want to have them on-hand before I disclose what they are. I don't want the sources to know what I am buying. I want to keep it real.

Bros, OLM is GTG. What a great place we got here

This has already put the cat amongst the pigeons..... , I could not be happier MM. The days of reckoning are finally at hand! Thank you very much!

Ben

 

[bighawk1]

Awesome thing you are doing by having these tests done. Very much appreciated.

 

[Micro]

Not sure if this was already asked, but why 6ius of the Tev's and 10 everything else.

 

[jackofall]

Wow, this is huge. Thanks for the testing! I am sad to see the eli's test so poor. Guess, I just have to double up the Eli's!!

 

[madmoe]

Not sure if this was already asked, but why 6ius of the Tev's and 10 everything else.

Great question. That is all I had left on the vial!! Didn't feel like opening a new vial and doing 10 Ius.

 

[hangclean]

Regarding the elitropin........isnt the high end of the reference range 2.0? In that case, a 12 reading would still be rather high? It obviously isn't as high as the other ones, but it is still off the charts. I am only inquiring because I have used most of the GH that is being tested in this thread and i had the worst water retention from riptropin and i simply refuse to believe that is normal for the amount i was using. thanktropin was actually my favorite brand, but the elis were a close second. Unless, I happened to only receive good batches of it, I am at a loss for words here.

 

[alpha6164]

Regarding the elitropin........isnt the high end of the reference range 2.0? In that case, a 12 reading would still be rather high? It obviously isn't as high as the other ones, but it is still off the charts. I am only inquiring because I have used most of the GH that is being tested in this thread and i had the worst water retention from riptropin and i simply refuse to believe that is normal for the amount i was using. thanktropin was actually my favorite brand, but the elis were a close second. Unless, I happened to only receive good batches of it, I am at a loss for words here.

Yes off the chart but no where close to where it should be. We know from medical studies done by Merck on Saizen that 5iu injection should produce a level of about ~20. If 10iu is giving you 11 it means that it is no where close as to being potent. The water retention from Rips is exactly from being very potent. Based on all these levels 3iu of Rips is equivalent to 10iu of Elits. So no wonder nobody is getting water retention from Elits. Cause you are not getting the same amount of HGH. I am attaching a graph that shows a 5iu injection of Saizen. One line is from a SubQ injection which shows peaking at ~20 around the 3.5hour mark and the other line which peaks at 3hours is their needless device. But either way you can see and expect what 5iu should put you at around 20 serum level. Hope that helps.

 

[hangclean]

Yes off the chart but no where close to where it should be. We know from medical studies done by Merck on Saizen that 5iu injection should produce a level of about ~20. If 10iu is giving you 11 it means that it is no where close as to being potent. The water retention from Rips is exactly from being very potent. Based on all these levels 3iu of Rips is equivalent to 10iu of Elits. So no wonder nobody is getting water retention from Elits. Cause you are not getting the same amount of HGH. I am attaching a graph that shows a 5iu injection of Saizen. One line is from a SubQ injection which shows peaking at ~20 around the 3.5hour mark and the other line which peaks at 3hours is their needless device. But either way you can see and expect what 5iu should put you at around 20 serum level. Hope that helps.

You say extreme water retention is a sign of potent GH......If that is true, why do people not get extreme water retention from pharm grade gh, then? I know people using 8 iu's of serostim daily and fat is melting off them while they eat everything in sight, yet there is none of that disgusting water retention? NOt trying to argue here, I just want to get to the bottom of this once and for all. It is frustrating as hell to throw away thousands of dollars on this shit.

 

[mrwhiteboy]

Water retention is not a good side effect.... It's not one to look for if you want to know you have legit hgh. Pharm grade will not give you any water retention. It is caused by impurities and filler in the chinese hgh. only way to tell if you're hgh is good is by nail growth, sleep, vivid dreams, slight cts that subsides after a short while same with numbness in extremities, and most importantly how you are looking in the mirror. leaning out, losing bf, getting the 3 dimensional look and pop to the muscle. thats advice from a pro fellas take it or leave it.

 

[alpha6164]

You say extreme water retention is a sign of potent GH......If that is true, why do people not get extreme water retention from pharm grade gh, then? I know people using 8 iu's of serostim daily and fat is melting off them while they eat everything in sight, yet there is none of that disgusting water retention? NOt trying to argue here, I just want to get to the bottom of this once and for all. It is frustrating as hell to throw away thousands of dollars on this shit.

Everybody reacts differently to GH as far as side effects. Water retention also has a lot to do with your sodium intake. I myself never got any water retention from Rips at all. Some do and some dont. Also the fillers may also have something to do with it. Look up any pharm grade GH package insert and you will see edema and water retention listed as side effects.

But the facts are facts if taking 10iu of Elits brings your serum GH to 11 and 10iu of Serostim brings your level to 30 then what conclusion can you draw from that?

 

[qbert]

Water retention is not a good side effect.... It's not one to look for if you want to know you have legit hgh. Pharm grade will not give you any water retention. It is caused by impurities and filler in the chinese hgh. only way to tell if you're hgh is good is by nail growth, sleep, vivid dreams, slight cts that subsides after a short while same with numbness in extremities, and most importantly how you are looking in the mirror. leaning out, losing bf, getting the 3 dimensional look and pop to the muscle. thats advice from a pro fellas take it or leave it.

Agree with mrwhiteboy on the water retention as not a good side effect. I believe you would need a full lab spectrum to determine the rest though. JMO

 

[alpha6164]

Water retention is not a good side effect.... It's not one to look for if you want to know you have legit hgh. Pharm grade will not give you any water retention. It is caused by impurities and filler in the chinese hgh. only way to tell if you're hgh is good is by nail growth, sleep, vivid dreams, slight cts that subsides after a short while same with numbness in extremities, and most importantly how you are looking in the mirror. leaning out, losing bf, getting the 3 dimensional look and pop to the muscle. thats advice from a pro fellas take it or leave it.

I hate to disagree and hope you are not offended but i disagree on all accounts. The only way you can tell you have legit HGH is to either to a full HPLC analysis of the vial which costs $800-1000 or to inject 5-10iu and test serum HGH 3-4 hours later. The "vivid dreams, looking good, etc etc " are things we have heard far too many times from people that have taken proven bunk GH. Believe it or not, placebo effect is a powerful and real medical issue. Most medical research show that in a placebo group up to 20% of the population achieve the same results as real drug group even though they are taking nothing but a sugar pill. Take a 100 people with high blood pressure and tell them you are giving them a BP med and 20 of those will have lower blood pressure in 30 days. It is placebo effect. Same has been done for depression, insomnia, obesity on and on. Medial research is done and based on bro science that i hear all over the place. It is backed by tests and labs that can be repeated and shown over and over again.

 

[mrwhiteboy]

I hate to disagree and hope you are not offended but i disagree on all accounts. The only way you can tell you have legit HGH is to either to a full HPLC analysis of the vial which costs $800-1000 or to inject 5-10iu and test serum HGH 3-4 hours later. The "vivid dreams, looking good, etc etc " are things we have heard far too many times from people that have taken proven bunk GH. Believe it or not, placebo effect is a powerful and real medical issue. Most medical research show that in a placebo group up to 20% of the population achieve the same results as real drug group even though they are taking nothing but a sugar pill. Take a 100 people with high blood pressure and tell them you are giving them a BP med and 20 of those will have lower blood pressure in 30 days. It is placebo effect. Same has been done for depression, insomnia, obesity on and on. Medial research is done and based on bro science that i hear all over the place. It is backed by tests and labs that can be repeated and shown over and over again.

well i agree, but with hands on experience the sides mentioned correlate the highest with hgh. basically the less amount of sides you have the better, as long as you know you're gh is legit. the dreams and sleepyness is definitely true though, go ahead and inject 10iu of humatrope and tell me u dont wanna pass out. lol and you will get hungry but will crave sugar more than anything.....