The real 5X5 program

Vanilla_Gorilla

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Seems like a lot of volume and heavy weight on the knees very frequently. I liked DC b/c it allowed my connective tissue the opportunity to recover. How's 5x5 on the knees?...anyone have knee issues with volume training and switch to 5x5? What was your experience?
 

Vanilla_Gorilla

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Also, I've noticed a lot of BBers who look into this program (including myself) find themselves wanting to modify things. This is a PLer routine, thus esthetic results are not of any real concern, correct?
 

coachj0233

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the only thing i dont like about it is its got squats 3 times a week, benching twice and overhead presses once. it also has deadlifts only once. is there something special about doing squats every other day that the author feels its necessary to neglect shoulders ? and if you think about it, shoulders being a small muscle group could use 2-3 times/week presses whereas benching could use maybe 1-2 and i see squatting as 1 maybe 2 per week if dropping the poundages. it just doesnt look like an equal program to me. i like the basic movements only and the 3 times/week template but it just doesnt look right.

You are supposed to alternate the workouts each week. So for week 1 you would do workout 1, then 2, then 1. On week 2 you would do workout 2, then 1, then 2.
 

sebaco2011

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5x5 was the very first official program I ran, I remember my squat jumped up like crazy! I was soooo happy once I saw how much my strength imporved because I ALWAYS doubted working a muscle more than once a week thanks to the magazines lol.
 

booms

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Still haven't seen a solid answer about rest time between sets. Anybody got an idea?

Since the program is based on adding weight every week with no failed reps on any sets you need to take varied rest times based on the person and the lift. So on 4th week when your up 20lbs or more on every lift you might need up to 3 minutes to fully recover on some lifts some might only take 60 seconds if you recover fast and know you can push the reps out in each set.

What you dont want is failed reps in 4th or 5th set because then the following time you do that failed lift you will still be at same weight you failed on which equals stalled progression. So with that in mind give yourself enough time for recovery in between sets so no failed reps.

Thats what I do and I stick to 5x5 with some suppliment lifts in the end of every workout.
 

booms

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Finishing up week 9 of 9 5x5s this week. Doing 3x3 for 3 weeks then 1 week of 1x1 Maxing out peak week. I did 5 weeks of 5x5s then stepped back 3 weeks in weight, so at week 8 i hit week 5 weight again. Now at week 9 im hitting 5-10lbs more then week 5 but with the step back at week 5 it made week 8 feel light. Only doing Bench, squats, rows, deadlifts, overhand weighted pullups, standing shoulder presses.

Its been a great program this go. I havent ran any gear in along time and im hitting some weights right at some cycle strength. I started at 202lbs and im at 211lbs now naturally. Been eating alot to put the weight on.

Ive never done 3x3s or 1x1 weeks or really ever followed through with any program all the way through. Really excited about doing some extra heavy high intensity 3x3s next week.

Heres what my program looks like:

Monday- squat, flat bench press, bent over rows all 5x5s

Wednesday- deadlifts 5x1, standing barbell shoulder press 5x5, weighted overhand pullups 5x5

Friday-Squats, Bench press, and rows all 5x1

So i dont squat 3x a week or deadlift 5 sets at weight, Its to rough on my CNS and body overall squatting that much and deadlifting heavy 5x5. On the 5x1s i add 10-20 lbs per set depending on exercise, so if im benching for example 240lbs 5x5 my 5x1 would be 200,220,240,260,280.
 
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Xxplosive

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I going to start this next week

To this day i still use it... Make strength/size gains from one workout to the next every time as long as your eating right and resting enough.

Like somebody else said, after about 4-6 weeks you should deload or switch go higher reps/lower weights or your CNS will be fried and you plateau
 
To this day i still use it... Make strength/size gains from one workout to the next every time as long as your eating right and resting enough.

Like somebody else said, after about 4-6 weeks you should deload or switch go higher reps/lower weights or your CNS will be fried and you plateau

4-6 weeks for deload is fine.
 
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