BFD...now what?

[TenMan]

I've been bodybuilding/weightlifting from one degree to another since I was 13 years old...I'm 64 now. Short story long, I hit the weights full force about six (6) months ago, read and studied the philosophies of champions and trainers, did the usual cycle of test, tren, dbol and worked out and ate like a mut4er4ucker. At 64, I have more muscle and symmetry than when I was competing in the early 2000's. I don't want to say that its depression, although that's what I see a psy. for regularly. I look at myself in the mirror and am very surprised at my muscle mass, but I'm like, "So what,,,,i'm all big, look good, but what good is it? I used to like going to events wearing a wife beater and watching the cops give me the stink eye...it was fun. At 64, I'd definitely get looks in a wife beater, but I would feel foolish, like a show-off. Just this week, I quit going to the gym, it seemed pointless. In general, the gym that I go to, I'm mostly the best built guy in there, but the whole thing is simply becoming boring. I never thought that I would feel like this, but I'm wondering if I've come to the point where it's just time to "retire" from the physique culture and call it a day. Any other old(er) guys care to comment on this?

 

[nhbskull21]

Covid and mask bs shuting down gyms killed it for me for a few years. Back then no one really went to the gym it was all drinking and partying. now gym culture is cool and there’s more pussy in the gym than bars. So now I’m just like I’ll show these kids something. Got me back into it.

 

[zeusmcgee]

Have you looked into Cerebrolysin for a possible “rebalancing” of your brain and nervous system? I use this stuff after suffering a pretty severe car accident and following that a stroke due to my legs being immobile and developing blood clots from breaking my back. It took a lot of years for me to feel better mentally bet after I used cerebrolysin and also injectable glutathione in cycles for close to a year I felt a massive level of improvement cognitively as well as physically. It’s worth a shot because to me it sounds like you might be suffering from anhedonia. Hope this was helpful and really hope you start feeling better, you are still a young man and being in shape will allow you to maintain a quality of life very few of those who don’t workout will ever know.

 

[jasmado]

Fuck Ten , just when I think you've got it all figured out. At 53 I like the way I feel when I look in the mirror. It's also nice when someone says to me "have you considered competing". But no that can't last forever. You might consider a new gym
Sort of a reset.
Jas

 

[Mack]

Dude …… when did this comeback occur?

I thought you had been out of the game for ages and had not lifted or been to a gym in at least a year?

what did I miss?

 

[Mack]

Oh and you should read the post about the transformation contest I’m hosting starting feb 1st it’s like no other before it.

you can simply post a “arm” or bicep shot as your before entry

no whole body shots required

top 3 guys get prizes

 

[Mack]

Oh ….. I just reread. Your 6 months deep in to a comeback

so I’m in my 50’s ….. and it’s rare I go to a gym and I’m not the most jacked up dude in the place, lead hard pumped and veiny

and I visit at least 25+ new gyms every single year as I travel 100% year round for my profession

like I do not remember the last time I was in the gym and there was a bigger more jacked up dude than me

and ….. I still love it. I does not get boring.

maybe some day it will, but not for me, not just yet.

 

[Mack]

Oh hey Ten…..

considering your impressive transformation I’d really like to know what / who resources you drew on and what exactly was your weight training, cardio and diet protocol?
did you cut out alcohol?

 

[TenMan]

Oh hey Ten…..

considering your impressive transformation I’d really like to know what / who resources you drew on and what exactly was your weight training, cardio and diet protocol?
did you cut out alcohol?

I know that it's been a while...
I'm just about getting really tired of all this. My last blood test shows that my BUN is within the normal range, but creatinine is at 1.87, and GFR is 40. Well, if creatinine is at 1.87, a gfr of 40 makes perfect sense. It seems that my doctor understands that carrying above normal muscular mass + higher creatinine level equals low gfr by calculation. I've searched the internet into infinity and found that people with above muscular mass (especially African-Americans) generally have a normal creatinine level around 2.0.
So, I was running 450 mg test and 225 tren a week (150 test and 75 tren EOD) a pretty mild cycle by standards....and it was six (6) weeks on, six (6) weeks off). Supplemental creatine was stopped in August 2023.
So, all of this has driven me nuts. I'm so close to just going back on, drinking 60 - 80 oz. of water per day, and saying what will happen will happen; frankly, I seem to be right in the proper numbers for a real BB'er.
As far as alcohol, yes, vodka has again become my friend since my numbers went whachy. However, my liver enzymes are in the mid 20's as of my last blood test...Jackpot! (j/k).
So, IDK what to think. Frankly, I'm thinking that Monday, I'm just going to start over and continue with my six (6) weeks on, six weeks off program and fuck it.
Thanks, TenMan

 

[jasmado]

How do you actually feel right now Ten?
I personally find comfort in the routine.
Don't u feel better hitting the gym.

 

[aalosio]

I've been bodybuilding/weightlifting from one degree to another since I was 13 years old...I'm 64 now. Short story long, I hit the weights full force about six (6) months ago, read and studied the philosophies of champions and trainers, did the usual cycle of test, tren, dbol and worked out and ate like a mut4er4ucker. At 64, I have more muscle and symmetry than when I was competing in the early 2000's. I don't want to say that its depression, although that's what I see a psy. for regularly. I look at myself in the mirror and am very surprised at my muscle mass, but I'm like, "So what,,,,i'm all big, look good, but what good is it? I used to like going to events wearing a wife beater and watching the cops give me the stink eye...it was fun. At 64, I'd definitely get looks in a wife beater, but I would feel foolish, like a show-off. Just this week, I quit going to the gym, it seemed pointless. In general, the gym that I go to, I'm mostly the best built guy in there, but the whole thing is simply becoming boring. I never thought that I would feel like this, but I'm wondering if I've come to the point where it's just time to "retire" from the physique culture and call it a day. Any other old(er) guys care to comment on this?

My father is 70 in very good shape and he's just works out at home 3 days a week and maintains what he's built throughout the years with 150 MG test and higher reps . He also quit the gym for reasons like yours but found a new love at home in the garage working out

 

[jasmado]

Good hearing from u double A, been awhile.

 

[Triposinator]

I've been bodybuilding/weightlifting from one degree to another since I was 13 years old...I'm 64 now. Short story long, I hit the weights full force about six (6) months ago, read and studied the philosophies of champions and trainers, did the usual cycle of test, tren, dbol and worked out and ate like a mut4er4ucker. At 64, I have more muscle and symmetry than when I was competing in the early 2000's. I don't want to say that its depression, although that's what I see a psy. for regularly. I look at myself in the mirror and am very surprised at my muscle mass, but I'm like, "So what,,,,i'm all big, look good, but what good is it? I used to like going to events wearing a wife beater and watching the cops give me the stink eye...it was fun. At 64, I'd definitely get looks in a wife beater, but I would feel foolish, like a show-off. Just this week, I quit going to the gym, it seemed pointless. In general, the gym that I go to, I'm mostly the best built guy in there, but the whole thing is simply becoming boring. I never thought that I would feel like this, but I'm wondering if I've come to the point where it's just time to "retire" from the physique culture and call it a day. Any other old(er) guys care to comment on this?

You're a fucking youngster. I'm 67 (until April). I weigh 45 pounds less than I did in my 50s. My workouts are all high reps and 1/3 the weight I used to use. Hell on the barbell bench its more like 1/4.

Here's the deal, I know how good I look cut up, as does my wife. I get comments all the time on how ripped up my arms and legs are - even though I'm a fraction of what I used to be. Nobody knows that but me and a few others.

Find a way to stay motivated. You've proven you can get big, just adapt. Trust me, you will not like yourself if you quit entirely and become just another fat ass.

 

[jasmado]

That's the best post I've ever read. Honesty, and wisdom.
Nice job tri.

 

[TenMan]

Oh hey Ten…..

considering your impressive transformation I’d really like to know what / who resources you drew on and what exactly was your weight training, cardio and diet protocol?
did you cut out alcohol?

Hi Mack,
You know me too good! lol.
Alcohol is still a problem, but I try to "trick" myself because if I'm drinking, I actually lose two (2) days (one (1) drinking, one (1) day recovering), so I try like hell to keep it in the front of my mind.
I quit cigarette smoking, I found that the off the shelf vapes (Breeze) carry me through. I don't know if vapes are any better than cigarettes, but with the vapes, it seems that my breathing problems have 85% disappeared (I was swearing that I was developing COPD...probably all the tar and whatever else).
I could go on about diet and routine, but I'll say right off, I don't do cardio. I keep my workouts at fast pace, so I get 2 for 1. I have generally followed Vince Gironda's workout principles at about 85%, basically the overload principle. I was extremely fortunate to have one of Vince Gironda's gym trainers train me at about 15 years old. I never want his name to disappear, and God know it "Ron Kosloff" RIP, he got me going when i was in HS. Its funny when big guys look at me sideways setting up the weights for Vince's 10-8-6-15 routine (you can look it up). I use it for Bi's. If you can do it in strict fashion 2x in one week, I'll give you an ounce of gold. lol.
Diet: Meat, fish, eggs...but every third day, carb load to the max to get you to the next two (2) days. HOWEVER, this is why my lab numbers are screwed up in my opinion.
Vince always went for the gladiator look, statue of David look, include Zane. it appeals to the person on the street. He was never for the mass monster look, neither am I. There was a time when you could name the bodybuilder by just looking at his shadow, not anymore; they all look cookie cutter to me...not bashing anyone, please know that it's just my opinion, not pleasing to the eye of mine.
The ancillaries are from a guy who's a long way away, prices are cheap, but shipping is outrageous, but it always comes through. His gear is great, but I think that its stronger than what the label says, I don't like that, I want to know what I'm using.

Thanks, Buddy!
TenMan

 

[jasmado]

I gave up cigs on new years eve breathing is better and can do 25 min on the elliptical now
As opposed to 3-5mins. Nice job to us both Ten!

 

[Mack]

Vince Gironda …..oh yeah.
Almost forgot about the dude.
I’ll have to look up that routine.

 

[TenMan]

Mack! Vince was one of the pioneers of BB'ing. Larry Scott didn't invent the Preacher (Scott) curl, Vince did. Scott only popularized it cause of his baseball biceps.
Just one example.

Thanks, TenMan