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Old 09-20-2010, 03:42 PM
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I seen the question asked with no reply so I will ask again. Will oral hcg work the same and if so what would be the amout you would take every day?
Oral HCG ???? never heard of it, Is it some OTC bs ? but I would say stick with the real thing, we know it works............11
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:46 PM
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How would you recommend running HCG if you only have 5000 ius for a 12 week test e cycle?
Well if that is all you have what Id do is count backward from day14 after your last TestE shot. you have 10 500ius shots so start then. count day 14 as first shot
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:43 PM
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Thats what I figured. Just start week 4 and run ten weeks. Thanks man
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Good info eleven11. Thanks. I am planning on 100ius ed. Can I mix it with my sustaplex 325, primo, tren and b12 injection?
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:27 PM
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Good info eleven11. Thanks. I am planning on 100ius ed. Can I mix it with my sustaplex 325, primo, tren and b12 injection?
No I would not. Just inject it by itself in a slin pin..............11
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Old 10-06-2010, 09:34 PM
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Alright eleven, how would someone go about preserving two 5000iu amps for a twelve week cycle? Ive read that once constituted its only good for 30 days in the fridge...Thats two months...how can you preserve it to last the other two?
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Alright eleven, how would someone go about preserving two 5000iu amps for a twelve week cycle? Ive read that once constituted its only good for 30 days in the fridge...Thats two months...how can you preserve it to last the other two?


Actually that's 1 month
use bacwater it will last 60days in fridge and dont mix the other till your finished with the first..................11
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Actually that's 1 month
use bacwater it will last 60days in fridge and dont mix the other till your finished with the first..................11
LOL. Im a rocket scientist...Good call. Thanks for all the help you put in man. I appreciate it. I had no idea its good for 60 days with bacwater. Good stuff...
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Default Winstrol only = HCG?

I rarely ever run a cycle w/ out Test incorporated in it. However, this time I'm going to run a 6 week cycle of oral winstrol. Is HCG recommended for this short simple cycle? If so, should I just run it during my cycle or wait 5 days after my last tab and take for 14 days?

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I rarely ever run a cycle w/ out Test incorporated in it. However, this time I'm going to run a 6 week cycle of oral winstrol. Is HCG recommended for this short simple cycle? If so, should I just run it during my cycle or wait 5 days after my last tab and take for 14 days?

Thanks, your advice is greatly appreciated!
Just curious why just oral winstrol ? what your goal?
Personally Id do 500ius wk but then again I wouldn't do this cycle.
Another thing is waiting till end, why the 5 day wait and why 14days. Winny will be out of your system in a day and thats when you want to start PCT................11
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Just curious why just oral winstrol ? what your goal?
Personally Id do 500ius wk but then again I wouldn't do this cycle.
Another thing is waiting till end, why the 5 day wait and why 14days. Winny will be out of your system in a day and thats when you want to start PCT................11
I have a photo shoot in December, and wanted to run something for 5-6wks. My last cycle was Test prop and masteron. I'm kind of tired of jabbing myself with pins ED. I wanted to tighten a bit in a short period of time and hold very little water. So thats why I was going to run winstrol.

What would you recommend instead of winstrol?
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I have a photo shoot in December, and wanted to run something for 5-6wks. My last cycle was Test prop and masteron. I'm kind of tired of jabbing myself with pins ED. I wanted to tighten a bit in a short period of time and hold very little water. So thats why I was going to run winstrol.

What would you recommend instead of winstrol?
I see what your wanting just know your sex drive might suffer a bit but only 6wks maybe not ??? if your not wanted to pin then this is as good as any. Maybe add some Proviron into the mix also and help with hardness/sexdrive.............11
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Thanks 11! I'll look into Proviron.
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Guys I've updated some info in my sticky to include an article from the Doc I got my info from yrs ago on this subject................11
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The doc says to use HCG to prevent testicular atrophy. Would it be okay to use it only when your balls start to shrink to bring them back?

How would you keep the HCG for the duration of your cycle, if you can't put a syringe in your fridge?
Can you just add the bac water to the vial the HCG is already in and draw as needed?

I think oral HCG might be the same thing but I don't know if it works the same.

The doc mentions using nolvadex or clomid "all along the way" and "he is now set to continue at the end." Does he mean using nolvadex or clomid on cycle and post?

Would proviron effectively prevent estrogen sides on cycle of dbol/test? Winstrol/test?

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The doc says to use HCG to prevent testicular atrophy. Would it be okay to use it only when your balls start to shrink to bring them back?

How would you keep the HCG for the duration of your cycle, if you can't put a syringe in your fridge?
Can you just add the bac water to the vial the HCG is already in and draw as needed?

I think oral HCG might be the same thing but I don't know if it works the same.

The doc mentions using nolvadex or clomid "all along the way" and "he is now set to continue at the end." Does he mean using nolvadex or clomid on cycle and post?

Would proviron effectively prevent estrogen sides on cycle of dbol/test? Winstrol/test?
Its best to use whole cycle. It's not good to get shut down then bring them back then shut down again. Keep them working.
Yes if it comes in a vial just add BW and put in fridge and draw as needed. if you cant keep in fridge get a small bag type cooler and some ice packs and keep in safe place.
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Some guys are more sensitive to estrogen than others. Proviron might be all you need but maybe have something on hand in case but don't use it unless you need it (talking about AI) not Proviron...................11
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:06 AM
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I've read that HCG should not be continually run, as it loses it's effectiveness after a continued
use of several weeks(>4). Rather, it should be administered periodically during a cycle. Could this be a
more effective way to use HCG?

1-10 Sustanon250 X 1 - EOW
4,8,12,13 HCG 500ui-EOD x 10days (5000ui)
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I've read that HCG should not be continually run, as it loses it's effectiveness after a continued
use of several weeks(>4). Rather, it should be administered periodically during a cycle. Could this be a
more effective way to use HCG?

1-10 Sustanon250 X 1 - EOW
4,8,12,13 HCG 500ui-EOD x 10days (5000ui)
IMO (and many others) no. We are using very low doses and running thru an entire cycle regardless of length is not a problem, especially a 10-16 wker. why go thru a rollercoaster of being shut down just to kickstart them again then shutdown, makes no sense. Keep then stimulated thru entire cycle and recovery will be so much easier.
Im on test yr around and also HCG @ 500ius E5D.
I take a couple wks off the HCG thru out the yr just for the hell of it and Ive had no problems.
I just came off test/HCG for 4wks to get blood work done and to be honest I never felt any difference those last 2wks. Got my BW done and went right back on....................11
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so i bought some hcg...2000ius per kit from hardgain..seems to have solvent with it as well..after adding solvent..where would 250 be on slin?..thanks man!..250 every 3rd day sounds about right??
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so i bought some hcg...2000ius per kit from hardgain..seems to have solvent with it as well..after adding solvent..where would 250 be on slin?..thanks man!..250 every 3rd day sounds about right??
250 e3d is fine.
How much solvent is in amps. Should be 1cc if so then after mixing your HCG you'll have 1cc = 2,000ius if you use a 1cc slinpin numbered 10-100 every 10 mark will be 200ius. Keep it simple and just do 200ius e3d................11
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duhh!tooo simple!hehehe..thanks 11!
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So, I came across an ad for oral HCG used for dieting.
I was a bit confused, maybe there was ambiguity with
the acronym of the compound?.. But in fact it is the same
compound administered orally oppose to injected.
The about page advertises the benefits of their oral product
of injectable form. Could this be a viable alternative to injecting
every HCG every day on a TEST cycle?.... 11?...
If so, then God bless the free market..

http://www.yourhcg.com/about/hcg-diet/
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So, I came across an ad for oral HCG used for dieting.
I was a bit confused, maybe there was ambiguity with
the acronym of the compound?.. But in fact it is the same
compound administered orally oppose to injected.
The about page advertises the benefits of their oral product
of injectable form. Could this be a viable alternative to injecting
every HCG every day on a TEST cycle?.... 11?...
If so, then God bless the free market..

http://www.yourhcg.com/about/hcg-diet/
sorry just saw this. Im not sold on oral HCG or HGH for that matter.
Use the real thing not some gimmick designed to take advantage of a current fad.
HCG is cheap (not those ridiculous prices shown) $15-$25 a 5,000iu vial . So my advice would be save your $.............11
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would it be ok to put mixed HCG in an empty roid vile or should i just get a new empty vial..?
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would it be ok to put mixed HCG in an empty roid vile or should i just get a new empty vial..?
I wouldn't because of the oil. Id get a new vial and as long as your keeping it in the fridge you can re use that vial..............11
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