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Old 05-22-2008, 06:42 PM
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I follow all the proper sanitation practices too.
The only difference is that I draw with an 18g and inject with a 20.
Been going for 27 years with only 1 abscess.
Of course with water based substances I will use a smaller gauge pin.
Very good advice from our mods.
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:58 PM
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good info. If you are using amps - use a FILTER needle to draw it up. There could be glass fragments that are too small to see inside the oil. The filter needle will catch these impurities.
were do you get the filters and how do they work?
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:22 AM
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Okay...so delts, buttocks, thighs and bis (holy-shit has anyone ever seen that dude that f'd his arms up form bi injects?)

Where else? Pecs? Calves? Tris?

Oh, and is there any merit to the argument that injections help the local site w/ growth.

Conversely, is the other argument true? That this is only a temporary thing?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:40 AM
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were do you get the filters and how do they work?
You do not need a filter for drawing oil from an ampoule. The peices of glass that break off are not large enough to go through a pin. You need filters for making home brews, not for every injection so don't worry about them.

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Okay...so delts, buttocks, thighs and bis (holy-shit has anyone ever seen that dude that f'd his arms up form bi injects?)

Where else? Pecs? Calves? Tris?

Oh, and is there any merit to the argument that injections help the local site w/ growth.

Conversely, is the other argument true? That this is only a temporary thing?
You can inject into any muscle that is large enough, read the first posts by Phreezer and visit spotinjections.com for injection sites.
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:09 AM
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Okay...so delts, buttocks, thighs and bis (holy-shit has anyone ever seen that 1, dude that f'd his arms up form bi injects?)

Where else? Pecs? Calves? Tris?

2, Oh, and is there any merit to the argument that injections help the local site w/ growth.

Conversely, is the other argument true? That this is only a temporary thing?
1,That was sythol that did that.
2, IMO no, none. unless you call minor swelling localize growth.

One other thing, you have glutes, quads, delts even with short esters and ED injects you don't need any other spots, and if your doing 2xwk injects that is more than enough. Save the smaller BP for things like HGH,IGF etc or even low doses 1cc- of waterbased gear...............11
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Old 07-02-2008, 03:08 AM
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IMO many times gear gets a bad rap due to poor injection procedures. Aside from making sure you aspirate and everything is sterile you should take special care to keep the pin straight after insertion. If you have to, let go of the pin and it will straighten itself and you will know exactly what angle to maintain. Also its not a race so inject very slow. These things will cut down on injection pain and scar tissue. I think many people are nervous so they just want to stick and push to get it over with ASAP. Being calm and patient will do wonders.
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:27 PM
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MORE INJECTION TIPS




A shower always sofins the skin.

Warm your gear in your hands or in water

Hold the needle upside down let some gear leak out to help lube the needle.

A steady hand goes a long way

Pushing in steady and slow

Not wiggleing the needle around when asprating

Only pushing 1 ml per every 30 seconds

Once the gear is all pushed in wait 15 seconds before pulling the needle out

Once the needle comes out quickly put another freash alcohol swab on it ASAP

Always swap needles one to draw one to shoot with

Realx blow out some air while the needle is going in

Please add any other tips you have so this thread my grow. Also remember most steroids used for cutting cycle sting more than most. Remember i said most NOT all.
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:42 PM
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So injecting Test E in my delts will give me the same results as if I inject in my glutes??
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So injecting Test E in my delts will give me the same results as if I inject in my glutes??
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Old 12-19-2008, 07:06 PM
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So injecting Test E in my delts will give me the same results as if I inject in my glutes??
Results have nothing to do with where you inject. You want to use for the most part larger muscles where you can get in at least an inch, after that its absorbed into your bloodstream and circulates your body.
glutes, quads, delts are main areas with some guys using tri's, bi's and other smaller muscles. Myself personally I stick to the big 3 with the exception of tri's with things like IGF-1 .............11
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:39 AM
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Personally, I've witnessed a lot of discussion about aspiration over the years. If it's in the glute, I'm not sure if it's needed. Still, if you want to be safe, then there is nothing wrong with aspiration.

Regarding site injections, I do not think they buy you anything as the AAS is absorbed and active in the bloodstream. Much discussion on this has also taken place over the years and most veterans will tell you that the glute is the safest place with regard to avoiding nerves. The only reason one might consider site injections is with frequent injections. Still, keep your dosages reasonable and this will not be necessary and will save your prostate and scalp in the long run.

Finally, I checked out the spot injection site cited above and I have to disagree with the glute pictures. I've done a ton of research on this topic. Divide your glute into four quadrants and go with the top one that is furthest out (near your hip). If you've ever received a shot from your doctor, this is EXACTLY where it is given (by the way, did you take note if they aspirated?). You should do the same. Stay away from the middle of the glute or you risk hitting a major nerve. I've NEVER had any problems. Do the same and neither will you.

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Old 01-28-2009, 11:10 AM
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most veterans will tell you that the glute is the safest place with regard to avoiding nerves.
jacked, I've read that the ventrogluteal site is the safest place regarding avoiding nerves.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:26 AM
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The past four weeks have been good as far as injections. My last one in my glut casued severe soreness and a very bad bruise. Being the fact that this is out of the ordinary i was just wondering what went wrong?
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:39 AM
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This gets asked a lot in the AAS sec.

This is what I do.
1st take a hot shower, make sure you use a wash cloth on the area your injecting (you'll be surprised and the surface dirt left behind using soap only).

Next clean the tops of your vials and the area that your injecting with an alcohol pad. EVERY TIME.

Next take a new needle out of it's wrapper and draw your oils (I use a 20g needle for drawing). after you've drawn the amount of AAS you want. CHANGE THE NEEDLE. I use a 25g 1" or 1.5" for injecting on everything. some use 22or23g thats your choice but IMO smaller is better for less scare tissue.
Needles are cheap so never reuse them.

after you have cleaned area to be injected insert needle slowly. Don't ram the thing in, By inserting slowly if I get close to a nerve I'll know BEFORE I hit it. If you feel your getting close to a nerve don't pull needle out, simply back off a little and change direction slightly. Once needle is in all the way ASPERATE. (this means pull back on plunger a little and look for blood inside syringe) if everything looks good then continue with your injection. Inject slowly. After your done pull needle out and hold a cotton ball or clean TP over injection site for a minute or so and gently massage area.
If you get a little bleeding from injection site don't freak out, some times this is normal with certain body parts. Hold pressure till bleeding stops and your done.
Don't get into bad habits with injecting, take the time to do it right every time, in 16yrs Ive never had an infection or an abscess.
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Old 03-24-2009, 04:53 PM
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should i see blood when i ASPERATE or not???
NO you should NOT. If you do pull needle out. What I do if this happens is inject it onto a tissue until all blood is out then replace needle and hit another spot. If you see blood when you asperate your in a vein. Now sometime AFTER you pull needle out there might be a couple drops of blood in there but that no big deal as the back pressure in the syringe will sometime pick up some blood while your pulling it out.................11
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:07 PM
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If being sterile is of utmost concern; I dont know why this sticky will say draw 1cc of air (from the atmospere with every fxxx thing in it...germs, bacteria, viruses, etc) into the plunger...and then push it into the vial.....just to build pressure and help you draw easily.......

Remember, you do the same thing (draw abt 1cc of air on top of the amount of oil/whatever uv already drawn) before you can change needles?........double trouble.....even tho u push this air out b4 u inject into ur body......but the oil in the pluger is already contaminated.......right?
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Old 05-25-2009, 01:27 PM
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Finally, I checked out the spot injection site cited above and I have to disagree with the glute pictures. I've done a ton of research on this topic. Divide your glute into four quadrants and go with the top one that is furthest out (near your hip). If you've ever received a shot from your doctor, this is EXACTLY where it is given (by the way, did you take note if they aspirated?).
Good point jacked, that's the main reason I never aspirate when going into my glutes (I do it everywhere else)

Whenever I've gotten any kind of shot from my Doc's office they never aspirate when going into the glute.
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Be sure to properly dispose of your needles. Itís not fair to Otto the garbage man if he has to get stuck with one of your used needles because you were too lazy to dispose of it properly.
I am just wondering how to dispose of pins. I looked on the net and found places that will sale safe disposal boxes then pick them up, but that does not sound too safe for me.

Any help would be great.

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Old 08-07-2009, 08:22 PM
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This is a great thread!! Thanks for all the info. I'm starting to go with vials and found some useful info in this thread. Thanks!
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:17 PM
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I am just wondering how to dispose of pins. I looked on the net and found places that will sale safe disposal boxes then pick them up, but that does not sound too safe for me.

Any help would be great.

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Great Info . Thanks
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can you use the same syringe again with a new needle?
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:35 PM
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no sir. not sterile after you use it. Too cheap to risk something like this.
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Thanks guys! out of all the countless forums and posts I've searched for the protocol on how to do this, this is most clear and easy!
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Old 12-31-2009, 08:49 AM
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I have a couple questions:

1) What do you do when you asperate, what do you do next if you find blood in the syringe?

2) Do you need a filter if you draw from a vial?

3)When combing AAS such as IE: Test Enth and Deca, do you draw both of them in the same syringe?

thanks and sorry if questions were dumb (still educating myself)

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