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Old 11-26-2018, 10:53 PM
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Default Is TEST the BEST for MASS?

Most people wanna mix up compounds but, I've heard more than one Mass Monster say simply, Test is Best. Keep it simple.

Wadya guys think?
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Old 11-27-2018, 03:59 PM
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It depends on you, man. I'd be inclined to agree, but I can't take large doses of test. It becomes counter productive for me. If I was going for a "mass" cycle, I'd use around 600mg test, maybe closer to 700...I'd just have to see...that's where it gets to be too much for me. Then 300mg or, again, maybe 450mg deca. Add 20mg dbol with 50mg drol to the beginning and end, and call it a day.

Ideally I'd add masteron or provirion, and a little gh...but those are icing on the cake for me, personally.

Tren would certainly be quite an addition (in place of the deca) as well. I'm all for keeping it simple, or simple enough. I used to like to play around with all sorts of doses and combinations...but if you pay attention, you'll learn what's best for your body.

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Old 11-27-2018, 07:45 PM
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In my experience, deca is the better overall mass builder. I've taken a lot of test and done quite well on it, but my most significant size gains were made on deca at 600mg/wk, and a shit ton of food.
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In my experience, deca is the better overall mass builder. I've taken a lot of test and done quite well on it, but my most significant size gains were made on deca at 600mg/wk, and a shit ton of food.
Really? That’s interesting mate.

Physiologically speaking you must be different than every other male that has ever walked this planet.


I guess that does not apply to you like it does to every other bodybuilder or powerlifter that has ever liv

Please .... could you just perhaps share your diet, training routine, and post up a few pics for those of us who have been chasing muscle mass and doing it all wrong all of these years by focusing on testosterone

Omg I need to revise my January bulker now.

PS: maybe I should just run an all deca cycle?
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:09 PM
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Most people wanna mix up compounds but, I've heard more than one Mass Monster say simply, Test is Best. Keep it simple.

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YES.

Simple and cheap.

Test first.

Hands down brother.

Arnold said it 25 years ago.

ďIf you donít take 2,000 mg testosterone a week then you donít have what it takes to be a ProĒ

Thatís some true shit.
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:52 PM
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Did Arnold really say that?
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:16 AM
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Did Arnold really say that?
Yes he did so Ďthey sayí

I heard about it a long time ago

Supposedly there is a bootleg video out there shot by an amateaur capturing Arnold in his prime making a statement about not making it unless you are willing to run 2 Grams of Test per week

Iíve never seen it I just heard about it 20 years ago
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:03 AM
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All of us owe Arnold such a huge debt.

That said, he's such a fucking sociopath.

The man hasn't said an honest thing in two decades.

That's politics.

Make Arnold Great Again.

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Old 11-28-2018, 10:04 AM
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It depends on you, man. I'd be inclined to agree, but I can't take large doses of test. It becomes counter productive for me. If I was going for a "mass" cycle, I'd use around 600mg test, maybe closer to 700...I'd just have to see...that's where it gets to be too much for me. Then 300mg or, again, maybe 450mg deca. Add 20mg dbol with 50mg drol to the beginning and end, and call it a day.

Ideally I'd add masteron or provirion, and a little gh...but those are icing on the cake for me, personally.

Tren would certainly be quite an addition (in place of the deca) as well. I'm all for keeping it simple, or simple enough. I used to like to play around with all sorts of doses and combinations...but if you pay attention, you'll learn what's best for your body.
What are the killer sides you'd hit if you ran it higher?
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My understanding is during Arnold's heyday test was considered dirty or cheap.

Oh, mack, for breakfast its dbol and cocopuffs, 2 triple cheeseburgers for lunch, beer pwo and pussy for dinner. Works g great.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:19 AM
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Ask any old school guy there gunna swear by test deca dbol for mass
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:27 AM
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Hard to argue that, certainly one of my favorite stacks. Now I obviously wasn't training in California in the 70's, but my understanding was that test was more of a last resort. From what I gather, deca, dbol, winstrol and primo were the preferred choices. I could be wrong but Ric Drasin said something along those lines on his YouTube show.
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:52 PM
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Hard to argue that, certainly one of my favorite stacks. Now I obviously wasn't training in California in the 70's, but my understanding was that test was more of a last resort. From what I gather, deca, dbol, winstrol and primo were the preferred choices. I could be wrong but Ric Drasin said something along those lines on his YouTube show.
Im pretty sure ur right my father was using aas back then and he says they always went low on test and mostly used other basic compounds back then that we see today he says first ever tren he saw was tren hex he called it parabolan
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What are the killer sides you'd hit if you ran it higher?
I get way too much bloat and my gyno flares up really bad. I dont like taking an AI unless I really have to. So, I've just learned to stay around 6 or 700mg of test. It does me just fine.

I will say that low test, high tren is fucking amazing for me, though.

Plus, I'm young and I've TRIED (hah) to be smart about AAS. I'm 32 now, and I was 25 when I started, I believe. No competition aspirations either. I used to like to play with all sorts of cycles and shit, but it was all just a waste of money. I can grow just fine on a pretty tame cycle if I want to. Ya know?
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:37 PM
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I get way too much bloat and my gyno flares up really bad. I dont like taking an AI unless I really have to. So, I've just learned to stay around 6 or 700mg of test. It does me just fine.

I will say that low test, high tren is fucking amazing for me, though.

Plus, I'm young and I've TRIED (hah) to be smart about AAS. I'm 32 now, and I was 25 when I started, I believe. No competition aspirations either. I used to like to play with all sorts of cycles and shit, but it was all just a waste of money. I can grow just fine on a pretty tame cycle if I want to. Ya know?
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:46 PM
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Safest test. But i run too much test my blood get thick and bp goes up and i feel like it goes to my stomach quick no matter how clean i am. Probably have to give the vote to dbol or deca. Then again running an anti e can kill the gains from test and dbol.
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:12 PM
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Everyone's different, you really have to find what works best for you. I live test/deca/winstrol...for a bulk, I'm sure some shills on this site would scream that winstrol won't help in a bulk, oh yes....yes it does.

But its the same everywhere, some guy prefer eq to deca. Every guy that can afford legit primo, does. Dbol vs anadrol etc. Some guys used to love the legit anavar, shaped like footballs. I think SPA produced them if I'm remembering correctly. The were 2.5mg and you only needed 8-10 per day. Strong stuff.

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My understanding is during Arnold's heyday test was considered dirty or cheap.

Oh, mack, for breakfast its dbol and cocopuffs, 2 triple cheeseburgers for lunch, beer pwo and pussy for dinner. Works g great.
Ok mate

Now you are talking my language

I might could warm up to you after all buddy

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Old 11-29-2018, 01:04 AM
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I have ran Test as high as 1g for a month or so and 750mg for long periods-- straight up, i built MORE muscle, looked and felt better on 250 or below.

I don't build a ton of mass with it, it makes me look like shit and strength increase is moderate..

Tren/primo/EQ/NPP/var... These all make a huge difference in my physique and add rock hard muscle.

Is it cool to gain 20 lbs with 10 around belly, 7 on your thighs and 3 on your face? Fawk that.
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I once read that a Pro Bodybuilder was saying the more test he ran the more his body would just burn away fat

As far as muscle gains go perhaps many meet diminishing returns at a certain dose but perhaps the fat burning effect may still be escalating

I do not know I’m just speculating

I’ve not ran more than 500mg a week in ages

Most of this year I’ve been around 200mg with several weeks at 100

Of course I’ve ran primo deca NPP and EQ .......
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I once read that a Pro Bodybuilder was saying the more test he ran the more his body would just burn away fat.
That's interesting. I've heard the same about the fat burning properties. I just dunno if I could handle that much test though! You ever think about trying it?
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That's interesting. I've heard the same about the fat burning properties. I just dunno if I could handle that much test though! You ever think about trying it?
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I once read that a Pro Bodybuilder was saying the more test he ran the more his body would just burn away fat

As far as muscle gains go perhaps many meet diminishing returns at a certain dose but perhaps the fat burning effect may still be escalating

I do not know Iím just speculating

Iíve not ran more than 500mg a week in ages

Most of this year Iíve been around 200mg with several weeks at 100

Of course Iíve ran primo deca NPP and EQ .......
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Do you suck dick, too?
Hey friend if you need help with your diet and nutrition program or helping building a training program that will work for you just PM me ....

I am always happy to help OLM members and I get PM’s of that nature every week

You don’t have to try to get my attention with boyish comments
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