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Old 10-14-2006, 02:49 PM
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buy it from muscle research.

lol not in a million years
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Old 10-14-2006, 02:51 PM
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LOL HEY THATS MINE!thats from my old list
and no..u never want to put anytihng into the igf vial except the aa.the water is added to the slin pin only.seperately.u put water into your igf vial,might as well just chuck it in the trash.

its easier to use 2ml acetic acid because it is easier to measure later when
you draw it
into a syringe.

after removing the vacuum SLOWLY add AA to the vial. try not to let the
stream of aa hit the powder directly, try to let it run down the glass into
the powder. when the aa is in gently swirl the vial until all is disolved.
do not shake.

a 1ml syringe is marked like this llll10llll20llll30llll40llll50llll60...etc
a 1/2 ml syringe is like this llll5llll10llll15llll20llll25llll30

on a 1ml each line represents 2 units 2,4,6,8,10
on a 1/2 ml each line is 1 unit 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. this makes it easier
to measure.

so if you use 1ml of aa, on a 1ml pin, each line is 20mcg. on a 1/2ml pin
each line is 10mcg

if you use 2ml of aa, on a 1ml pin each line is 10mcg, on a 1/2 ml each line
is 5mcg...the 5line is 25mcg, 10 line is 50mcg...etc

so you see that the easiest way to measure is using 2ml and a 1/2ml pin

your igf is stored in aa solution, nacl is added to dilute at the time of
research. draw twice as much nacl as igf. so if you draw igf to the ten
line, draw nacl to the 30 line and you are ready to go.

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I've seen this post a few times, on different boards

The problem I have with this method is that it says to mix the AA and the water together and that I believe is misleading the IGF should only be reconstituted with AA only and the water just used at time of injection.

Below is a couple of quotes from other areas


LR3-IGF-1 Reconstitution Instructions:

1mg of lyophilized LR3-IGF-1


Inject 1ml of AA solution into your vial of IGF,be cautious of the
vacuum in the IGF vial.You will need to control the syringe plunger
so the AA does not forcefully spray down onto the IGF powder.I
would suggest 'venting' the vial first to release this vacuum.You
want to trickle it down the side of the vial slowly and then swirl
the solution gently to mix it into a clear solution.

On a 1ml slin pin each tick is 20mcg of IGF.Draw out the
appropriate amount of IGF and then switch to your vial of sodium
chloride water to dilute it.That's all there is to it.

The most important points I would like to make clear are:

THE ONLY THING that comes in contact with the powder IGF is
the acetic acid(AA) solution being injected into its vial.NOTHING
ELSE is ever injected
into your vial of IGF concentrate,ONLY the AA.You suck up the
sodium chloride water separately.

DO NOT use BA to mix this IGF.That can/will work for gropep IGF
and some others perhaps,but it will turn this chinese produced IGF
into a sludge.Dont do it.

From Omegalabs forum

Ok, guys you can mix your IGF 2 ways, with Bwater or with out. IF you don't plan on using Bwater simply draw the proper amount(your choice) of MCGs into your slin pin and inject. SIMPLE!

Now if you plan to use Bwater along with your IGF LISTEN CAREFULLY!!
FIRST, you draw the IGF in the pin(your choice of MCGs. DO NOT DRAW WATER INTO YOUR PIN FIRST BECAUSE YOU RISK DRIPING WATER INTO YOUR MAIN VIAL AND DAMAGING YOUR IGF DUE TO THE TIME FACTOR IN WATER!! After you draw your IGF you then proceed to draw up your water. You can use any amount of water you choose but i recommend just fill it up but leave enough room in the pin so the liquid has room to stir and mix together. Once mixed with water you need to take it immediately!! IGF CAN ONLY SURVIVE IN WATER FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME!! Thats it!!

REMEMBER IGF FIRST, WATER SECOND and you will never have a problem.

Hope this clears things up!
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Old 10-14-2006, 03:07 PM
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lol not in a million years
May I ask why not? I quite liked the product, myself.
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Old 10-14-2006, 03:17 PM
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May I ask why not? I quite liked the product, myself.
i am not into bashing competitors so ill just say to many 'mixed reviews' and leave it at that.and the kicker..price..ouch
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:52 PM
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how long is the igf good for in the aa solution
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Old 10-18-2006, 05:23 PM
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how long is the igf good for in the aa solution
In 100nM AA solution, Long R3 IGF-1 remains 100% stable after one year at 98 degrees F

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Storage of LR3 IGF-1
*Study conducted by Gropep

The stability of a liquid solution of LR3IGF-I was monitored for a period of two years at storage conditions of -20 C, +4 C, +22 C, and +37 C. The final concentration of LR3IGF-I was in acetic acid. At various time points, samples were taken and compared to a lyophilized control (stored at 4 C). Listed below are the stability results for each respective storage condition.


Storage Condition: -20 C (-4 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +4 C (39.2 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +22 C (71.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 2 years
Immunological Activity No Change up to 2 years
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 2 years
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 2 years

Storage Condition: +37 C (98.6 F)
Biological Potency No Change up to 1 year
Immunological Activity No Change up to 1 year
Mobility of Protein No Change up to 1 year
Elution Profile by reversed phased HPLC No Change up to 1 year

In conclusion, there is no significant difference in the potency of LR3IGF-I associated with the storage of the liquid formulation when stored at this range of temperatures. There is no evidence for loss of biological activity at any of the tested temperatures when stored as a liquid product. As you can see IGF can be quite stable for even a year at room temperature, but if you want to keep it around for a while then stick it into the fridge. So in my opinion the best way to store LR3 that is suspended in BA (benzoic acid) is in the freezer. The BA won’t allow it to freeze. And if you have it suspended in AA (acetic acid), store it in the fridge.

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Heres a little info on reconstituding IGF and how to store. Credit LA for posting this on another board.

Conversion From LA @ MC
I do IM injects but to prepare it here's an easy way.
It comes in 1000mcg per ml.
Take 2 ml of of bacteriostatic water water an add it to the vial it came with. Now you have 1000mcg per 3 ml.
Take 2 slin pins and fill them from the vial. Each pin holds 1ml. Freeze these pins. Each pin will have 333mcg in them and there will be 333mcg left in vial.
Add 2 more ml of of bacteriostatic water to what's remaining in the vial. This gives you 333mcg in 3 ml or approx 100mcg per ml. Now you can use a slin pin to measure out the amount. 30mcg would be 30 on a slin pin, 40 would be 40 and so on.
When you run out, take one of the frozen pins and add it to an empty vial. Add 2 ml of of bacteriostatic water and you have the same solution as before (333mcg in 3 ml or approx 100mcg per ml).
I do mine 5on/2off at 30mcg for 4 weeks. So I end going through 2/3 of a 1000mcg a cycle. So for every 2000mg purchased I get 3 cycles worth.
I've tried this, but now I'm reading about IGF losing its potency quickly when reconstituted in BW. Wouldn't this method kill the IGF?
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:36 PM
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^ i believe BW does kill the igf after a couple hours but stays good in AA for a while
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:59 AM
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i dont see the point of clusterfucking the process as outlined above.i wonder if he is using bunk igf that way...the only possible thing i can think of is MAYBE being frozer prevents degradation,personally i doubt it and i have no real reason to believe this,just brainstorming.
why anyone would use bw instead of aa is beyond me
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The lower the temperature, the slower it will degrade. When the solution turns solid, the IGF-1 is destroyed. That is why IGF-1 in BA in the freezer was OK - it was kept at a VERY low temperature, slowing down degradation to a crawl, and it didn't turn solid, as pure alcohol tends not to get solid easily.
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I just put 1cc of bac water in my IGF. After realizing what I did I immediatly put in 1cc of aa. How long can i now store it for?
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I just put 1cc of bac water in my IGF. After realizing what I did I immediatly put in 1cc of aa. How long can i now store it for?
Use it ASAP, should be good for 2-3 weeks at least.
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thanks Grunt, I thought it would be ok for a while
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i have 1cc 27g 1/2 insulin syringes and i wanna do about 60 or 80 mcg of igf lr3....how much would i need to draw from my igf for this amount...im a newb at mixing it myself my buddy usually does it for me...
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Do you think Cyponate, Trenbolon 100mg and IGF is a good stack for good massive quality gains could you advice on if i should use hgh and insulin also, and what brand of igf you recommend?

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Default IGF Longhorn R3 prper mixing

PLz help. I have Igf Longhonr R3 3mg- 3000mcgs

I will be taking 60 mcgs bilaterally into the muscle using U100 Insulin slin pin
1cc 27gauge 1/2 inch needle.

I have three vials one is a powder, than basteristic water, and some other vial i thing AA.

How do I mix it properly? first igf than the BW, can you exlpain plz in detail how to properly mix the solution for injection.
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Now the one that muscle research sells says its 1mg of igf per ml of aa. Now how in god's name am i supposed to draw 0.01 ml of the solution if lets say i wanna draw 10mcgs of igf??? Will be using a slin pin btw and top mark on the syringe reads 1ml.
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Now the one that muscle research sells says its 1mg of igf per ml of aa. Now how in god's name am i supposed to draw 0.01 ml of the solution if lets say i wanna draw 10mcgs of igf??? Will be using a slin pin btw and top mark on the syringe reads 1ml.
Why would you only draw out 10 mcgs? 10 mcgs wont do jack.
1ml=1mg=1000mcgs. 10 units on 1ml slin pin=100mcgs. 1unit on 1ml slin pin=10mcgs.
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Why would you only draw out 10 mcgs? 10 mcgs wont do jack.
1ml=1mg=1000mcgs. 10 units on 1ml slin pin=100mcgs. 1unit on 1ml slin pin=10mcgs.
SO ur'e trying to say there are 100 marks on ur slin pin??? I think mine has only 10 and each represents 0.1ml (I think )

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SO ur'e trying to say there are 100 marks on ur slin pin??? I think mine has only 10 and each represents 0.1ml (I think )
That's not an insulin syringe, that is simply a normal 1ml syringe. I bet you can even change the needles. Wrong syringe.
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dave palumbo preaches/says 10mcg is all you need and all this high dosing is for the upselling of products. i have the article in MD right here.
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Wow! that was some intense info on IGF. I am still a little uncertain about the actual reconstitution for using vinegar and distilled water. I have 5- 1mg vials of IGF-1 LR3 and I was needing to know how to reconstitute. thanks a bunch guys!
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Wow! that was some intense info on IGF. I am still a little uncertain about the actual reconstitution for using vinegar and distilled water. I have 5- 1mg vials of IGF-1 LR3 and I was needing to know how to reconstitute. thanks a bunch guys!

read bigfoots post above.

do you have aa already or you making it?

1ml of aa in your igf = 1/2cc slin pin each tick is 10mcg.

on a 1cc slin pin each tick is 20mcg with 1ml of aa.
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Heres a little info on reconstituding IGF and how to store. Credit LA for posting this on another board.

Conversion From LA @ MC
I do IM injects but to prepare it here's an easy way.
It comes in 1000mcg per ml.
Take 2 ml of of bacteriostatic water water an add it to the vial it came with. Now you have 1000mcg per 3 ml.
Take 2 slin pins and fill them from the vial. Each pin holds 1ml. Freeze these pins. Each pin will have 333mcg in them and there will be 333mcg left in vial.
Add 2 more ml of of bacteriostatic water to what's remaining in the vial. This gives you 333mcg in 3 ml or approx 100mcg per ml. Now you can use a slin pin to measure out the amount. 30mcg would be 30 on a slin pin, 40 would be 40 and so on.
When you run out, take one of the frozen pins and add it to an empty vial. Add 2 ml of of bacteriostatic water and you have the same solution as before (333mcg in 3 ml or approx 100mcg per ml).
I do mine 5on/2off at 30mcg for 4 weeks. So I end going through 2/3 of a 1000mcg a cycle. So for every 2000mg purchased I get 3 cycles worth.
Why is this in here? This is about short-chained IGF. Not LR3.
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