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Default Superdrol/Methyldrostanolone

Superdrol/Methyldrostanolone

Androgenic Rating = 20

Anabolic Rating = 400

Chemical Name= 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstane-17b-ol-3-one

Estrogenic Activity = none

Progestational Activity = no data available

Methyldrostanolone, also known as methasteron, is a potent oral anabolic steroid that was never sold as a prescription drug. In structure, this steroid is a close derivative of drostanolone (Masteron). The only difference in this case is the addition of a c-17 alpha methyl group, a modification that gives this steroid high oral bioavailability. The two agents remain very comparable, however. Both methyldrostanolone and drostanolone are non-aromatizable, so there is no difference in the estrogenicity of these two steroids, and both steroids retain favorable anabolic to androgenic ratios. Lab assays do put Superdrol ahead here, however, showing it to possess 4 times the anabolic potency of oral methyltestosterone while displaying only 20% of the androgenicity (a 20:1 ratio, compared to 3:1). The exact real-world relevance of these figures remains to be seen, however. Methyldrostanolone is favored by athletes for its moderate anabolic properties, which are usually accompanied by fat loss and minimal androgenic side effects.

History:
Methyldrostanolone was first described in 1959. This steroid was developed by the international pharmaceuticals giant Syntex, alongside such other well known anabolic agents as drostanolone propionate and Oxymetholone. Unlike drostanolone and oxymetholone, however, this steroid (at least in its basic form) was never released as a medicinal product. It was only sold for a brief period of time as a modified hormone called dimethazine. Dimethazine is made from two molecules of Methyldrostanolone that are bonded together, which are later metabolically separated to yield free Methyldrostanolone.

So while technically Methyldrostanolone itself was never sold as a prescription agent, we can say that the drug was one utilized medicinally.OtherWise, the methyldrostanolone molecule Methyldrostanolone remained an obscure research steroid only, and was never itself approved for use in humans. Methyldrostanolone was released in early 2005 as an over the counter "grey market" anabolic steroid in the United States.

The drug was being sold without restrictions as a nutritional supplement product, barring some minimum age disclaimers by the manufacturer. No State or Federal laws identify this drug as an anabolic steroid, which remove the legalities associated with being a Class III controlled substance like other steroids. This is simply due to the fact that methyldrostanolone was not in commerce at the time such laws were written, and was unknown to lawmakers. It was never legal to sell as a dietary supplement, however, and in late 2005 the FDA angrily acknowledged methyldrostanolone was being sold on the sports supplement market. In early 2006, the FDA sent letters to the manufacturer and a distributor demanding it be pulled from commerce. Superdrol has since been discontinued.

Structural Characteristics:
Methyldrostanolone is a modified form of dihydrotestosterone. It differs by: 1) the addition of a methyl group at carbon 17-alpha, which helps protect the hormone during oral administration, and 2) the introduction of a methyl group at carbon-2 (alpha), which considerably increases the anabolic strength of the steroid by heightening its resistance to metabolism by the 3-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme in skeletal muscle tissue.

Side Effects (Estrogenic):
Methyldrostanolone is not aromatized by the body, and is not measurably estrogenic. An anti-estrogen is not necessary when using this steroid, as gynecomastia should not be a concern even among sensitive individuals. Since estrogen is the usual culprit with water retention, methyldrostanolone instead produces a lean, quality look to the physique with no fear of excess subcutaneous fluid retention. This makes it a favorable steroid to use during cutting cycles, when water and fat retention are major concerns.

Administration (Men):
Methydrostanolone was never approved for use in humans. Prescribing guidelines are unavailable. An effective dosage of methyldrostanolone for physique or performance-enhancing purposes seems to begin in the range of 10-20 mg per day, taken for no longer than 6 or 8 weeks. At this level it seems to impart a measurable muscle-building effect, which is usually accompanied by fat loss and increased definition. Don't expect to gain 30 pounds on this agent (its name, which is short for "Super Anadrol" is more marketing than reality), but many do walk away with more than 10 pounds of solid muscle gain when using this agent alone. In determining an optimal daily dosage, some do find the drug to be measurably more effective when venturing up to the 30 mg range. Potential hepatotoxicity should definitely be taken into account with such use, however.

To avoid further escalating liver strain, 20 mg daily of daily of methyldrostanolone is sometimes stacked with a non-toxic injectable steroid, such as testosterone for mass-building phases of training, or nandrolone or boldenone for more lean tissue gain and definition, instead of simply increasing the dosage.The drug also works well in cutting cycles,where its lack of estrogenicity is highly favored. Often it is combined here with a non-aromatizable Injectable steroid like Primobolan or Parabolan.

Administration (Women):
Methyldrostanolone was never approved for use in humans. Prescribing guidelines are unavailable. In the athletic arena, an effective oral daily dosage would fall around 2.5 mg per day, taken in cycles lasting no more fhan 4-6 weeks to minimize the chance for virilization. The main point of contention with females is probably going to be the 10 mg per capsule dosage, which is far too high to use. Application would require opening each capsule and splitting the powdered contents up into 4 separate doses. As with all steroids, virilization is still possible.

Availability:
Superdrol is no longer commercially produced, although some clone products may still be located.

This is not my original work, credit goes to William Llewellyn and his book Anabolics 2009.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:50 PM
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Superdrol is much more androgenic in vivo than its numbers suggest.
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Superdrol is much more androgenic in vivo than its numbers suggest.
It is one of the few steroids that has no affinity for SHBG, so I agree with you on that.
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great read! i have been waiting for this lol! good find
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i heard somewhere that superdrol leads to loss of libido. just wanted to confirm if it does.
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i heard somewhere that superdrol leads to loss of libido. just wanted to confirm if it does.
it did about 3 weeks into the cycle. before that i was fine, but then it hit me. this was when i ran sd by itself, not with test. never run it without test imho!
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great read! i have been waiting for this lol! good find
No problem bro, always happy to provide good information whenever I can!
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we should get a good m1t in here also
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I love SD.
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we should get a good m1t in here also
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we should get a good m1t in here also
Mmmmm, Superdrol & M1T... I would have a truly hard time choosing between a couple bottles of these, and an unlimited supply of Pizza Hut for the rest of my life.

Why, OH WHY, did our Uncle Sam have to come and take away all our goodies?

I am going to run a cycle of these two power houses at some point in time, if it takes all my sleuthing capabilities I posses!!
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Mmmmm, Superdrol & M1T... I would have a truly hard time choosing between a couple bottles of these, and an unlimited supply of Pizza Hut for the rest of my life.

Why, OH WHY, did our Uncle Sam have to come and take away all our goodies?

I am going to run a cycle of these two power houses at some point in time, if it takes all my sleuthing capabilities I posses!!
CEL still makes a superdrol clone. CEL also makes M1A, which is a pro-hormone to M1T.

It would make for a powerful cycle, as long as you took a long enough break in between orals. I am almost 100% certain you would run some test.
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CEL still makes a superdrol clone. CEL also makes M1A, which is a pro-hormone to M1T.

It would make for a powerful cycle, as long as you took a long enough break in between orals. I am almost 100% certain you would run some test.
Thanks so much, great info! I am going to look into the M1T PH counterpart... does it convert to M1T or is it a true clone? Luckily... I have an unreal amount of Test, UNluckily, it is the worse pain I have EVER felt for 3 days after each injection.

I saw another company here, GE (Geneza, I think I'm allowed to mention the name just not a specific source) that has M1T available; I'll be doing some reading/research! Thanks again
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it did about 3 weeks into the cycle. before that i was fine, but then it hit me. this was when i ran sd by itself, not with test. never run it without test imho!
thanks bro.. how much time did it take for your sex drive to recover? n whats the reason its effecting libibo? its not a progestin.
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thanks bro.. how much time did it take for your sex drive to recover? n whats the reason its effecting libibo? its not a progestin.
freaky, i really can't remember bro, it was over 2 years ago. i just remember running test a little while after i finished the sd cycle. i stay on a small dose of test year-round bro
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Thanks so much, great info! I am going to look into the M1T PH counterpart... does it convert to M1T or is it a true clone? Luckily... I have an unreal amount of Test, UNluckily, it is the worse pain I have EVER felt for 3 days after each injection.

I saw another company here, GE (Geneza, I think I'm allowed to mention the name just not a specific source) that has M1T available; I'll be doing some reading/research! Thanks again
I think that M1A converts like this...

Methyl-1AD -> Methyl-1-Test

I have a bottle of this and straight up M-1-T. Since I have not taken either, I do not know what the conversion rate would be, but most users report excellent gains at 60mgs per day of M1A.
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go with m1t, run just 10mg ed. i wonder how 20mg of superdrol is like compared to 20mg of m1t for 4 weeks? strength and size wise
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go with m1t, run just 10mg ed. i wonder how 20mg of superdrol is like compared to 20mg of m1t for 4 weeks? strength and size wise
Good question, and also thanks for the advice/direction.

I have always been told Superdrol (and clones) impart slightly slower and smaller overall gains in lean tissue, but they are more 'maintanable' when compared to M1T which is a compound that will add extreme mass with heightened speed, but will also induce greater water retention and without a very calculated PCT muscle gains can fade fast.
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Good question, and also thanks for the advice/direction.

I have always been told Superdrol (and clones) impart slightly slower and smaller overall gains in lean tissue, but they are more 'maintanable' when compared to M1T which is a compound that will add extreme mass with heightened speed, but will also induce greater water retention and without a very calculated PCT muscle gains can fade fast.
superdrol is a better steroid

m1t is a stronger steroid with more sides

this is from running each many times personal experience based

they are both very hepatoxic and made me feel like the walking dead.

but STRONG . I notice superdrol has a mild diahrettic*sp effect, and makes some go hypoglycemic

m1t just taxes the crap out of your billirubin levels
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sd def has a diuretic effect
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superdrol is a better steroid

m1t is a stronger steroid with more sides

this is from running each many times personal experience based

they are both very hepatoxic and made me feel like the walking dead.

but STRONG . I notice superdrol has a mild diahrettic*sp effect, and makes some go hypoglycemic

m1t just taxes the crap out of your billirubin levels
Great post! I'm unsure of what bilirubin levels are, and I would really appreciate if you would explain it, since I am going to be running these compounds at some point this year. Also, I have heard conflicting reports of which compound is considered more liver toxic; and what would be the best way to compare, milligram to milligram wouldn't seem right since they are usually run at varying dosages comparatively.

I ran the first cycle of my life years ago with Monster Test, the liquid M1T produced by VPX, and it was unlike ANYTHING I have ever experienced in my life. QUITE SERIOUSLY more potent and more fast acting than even high dosed Dianabol

PS: On the mentioning of the diuretic and hypoglycemic properties of Superdrol, would the diuretic effect be mistaken for a Masteron-like hardening effect or does it actually reduce total body water retention (and thus increase risk of joint/tendon injuries?) Also, on the other intrinsic value of Superdrol lowering blood sugar, can this be paralleled to a GDA (glucose disposal agent) such as many recent over the counter offerings or Meformin (Glucophage) which could also be attributed to anecdotal fat loss claims? Anything that builds muscle and modulates insulin mediated blood glucose storage toward muscle cells is welcomed in my book!!!

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How about PR or prolactin activity?

I remember reading reports that it had issues with this in theory. If it exists in theory and it has to do with progesterone then it WILL exist in he haha
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How about PR or prolactin activity?

I remember reading reports that it had issues with this in theory. If it exists in theory and it has to do with progesterone then it WILL exist in he haha
its real, ive run it 3 times and all 3 times I notice I'll have some tenderness and if i squeeze on my nipple some fluid comes out. I mega dosed p-5-p at 90mg daily last cycle (30mg 3 times a day) however that actually stopped the prolactin side 100%.

Having run it a couple times here is the points I'd want to make out to those using:
1. its not that hard on the hairline, and im prone
2. its really really toxic, lab work 1 month after pct of a light 10/10/20/20 cycle showed my liver values at STILL 3 times normal and I tested positive for surface Hep B THATS how out of range I was. I was taking a ton of liver supports too - didnt do shit.
3. strength gains are really dramatic but if you really go 100% to the max your joints are going to break to dust.
4. people prone to high blood pressure need to avoid
5. prostate issues are very apparent

but other then that, your skin will be fine, you'll gain a very very good deal of size and strength considering how short a run could be. Estrogen gyno chances are basically zero, prolactin issues are easily thwarted. Zero water or fat gain, it hardens you a lot - muscles feel like brick. MY hand and jaw muscles actually got a lot thicker- thats how anabolic this stuff is.

If you're going to run it, 20mg daily max - 10mg is fine. No need to run it longer then 3 weeks and it would probably if anything be best for like an end of the cycle oral kind of thing, because your gonna feel like total shit and want to get into pct.
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Awesome post Captain10! Thanks for the detailed feedback!
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its real, ive run it 3 times and all 3 times I notice I'll have some tenderness and if i squeeze on my nipple some fluid comes out. I mega dosed p-5-p at 90mg daily last cycle (30mg 3 times a day) however that actually stopped the prolactin side 100%.

Having run it a couple times here is the points I'd want to make out to those using:
1. its not that hard on the hairline, and im prone
2. its really really toxic, lab work 1 month after pct of a light 10/10/20/20 cycle showed my liver values at STILL 3 times normal and I tested positive for surface Hep B THATS how out of range I was. I was taking a ton of liver supports too - didnt do shit.
3. strength gains are really dramatic but if you really go 100% to the max your joints are going to break to dust.
4. people prone to high blood pressure need to avoid
5. prostate issues are very apparent

but other then that, your skin will be fine, you'll gain a very very good deal of size and strength considering how short a run could be. Estrogen gyno chances are basically zero, prolactin issues are easily thwarted. Zero water or fat gain, it hardens you a lot - muscles feel like brick. MY hand and jaw muscles actually got a lot thicker- thats how anabolic this stuff is.

If you're going to run it, 20mg daily max - 10mg is fine. No need to run it longer then 3 weeks and it would probably if anything be best for like an end of the cycle oral kind of thing, because your gonna feel like total shit and want to get into pct.
captain, great post man. never heard about the jaw muscles/hand muscles thing though lol. but i can def believe you...........

and i agree no more than 20mg. even on 20mg i felt like shit...

and did u run the original sd or a clone?
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