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Old 04-21-2016, 11:58 AM
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I recently had blood work done and my test levels were low 307 ng/dl. I have done a few runs with hcg that lasted 20-25 days where I would inject 5000iu every 5 days to try and get my levels up to normal followed by taking nolva 20mg and clomid 50mg a day for an additional 30 days. While I feel great while on the hcg my levels seem to crash as I go off. Is there anything I should be doing differently to stimulate my testes to produce test more permanently. It looks like I have been dosing it too high from reading this and maybe not taking it long enough. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
How old are you ? Depending on your age 307 might be in the " acceptable " range.
Also was the 5000 ius prescribed by a doctor or just decided to do that yourself.
Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with. When you go back on cycle I recommend following my sticky and hopefully your recovery will leave your levels after cycle at a higher range. If your over 45 it might be time to consider staying on test if you want higher test levels ?? .......11
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:29 PM
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How old are you ? Depending on your age 307 might be in the " acceptable " range.
Also was the 5000 ius prescribed by a doctor or just decided to do that yourself.
Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with. When you go back on cycle I recommend following my sticky and hopefully your recovery will leave your levels after cycle at a higher range. If your over 45 it might be time to consider staying on test if you want higher test levels ?? .......11
I'm under 30. Some brief history on my test levels and usage. I've ran a few prohormones back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine. When I started experimenting in AAS back in 2010 I never used HCG on cycle or as part of recovery and I'm paying the price. After my 3rd cycle in 2011 I got bloodwork because I was feeling like ass. My test levels were extremely low 180 ng/dl. I then decided to take the hcg nolva/clomid protocol that I came up with myself and got bloodwork done 4 months later. My levels were then 608 ng/dl so my ghetto pct worked. I haven't taken AAS in 2 years since tearing my pec but again my libido was non existent post cycle so I did my hcg protocol and felt fine for a month and then back to shit. I've repeated it 2 more times since then and still felt in the dumps so I went and got bloodwork done last week. I just got the results back today. My Dr. said that my levels are low for my age and she may want me to see an endocrinologist after we do further testing. I know that I respond to hcg because I feel awesome while on it I just would like to know if there's a way to keep that test boost up permanently?
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:33 PM
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Using it just to get your levels up is not something I feel I can't help you with
So it can or can't be used on its own to raise test levels? I get the idea that you were trying to say that you couldn't help me use it to just get my levels up but technically the way you worded that sentence means you can help me?
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I'm under 30. Some brief history on my test levels and usage. I've ran a few prohormones back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine. When I started experimenting in AAS back in 2010 I never used HCG on cycle or as part of recovery and I'm paying the price. After my 3rd cycle in 2011 I got bloodwork because I was feeling like ass. My test levels were extremely low 180 ng/dl. I then decided to take the hcg nolva/clomid protocol that I came up with myself and got bloodwork done 4 months later. My levels were then 608 ng/dl so my ghetto pct worked. I haven't taken AAS in 2 years since tearing my pec but again my libido was non existent post cycle so I did my hcg protocol and felt fine for a month and then back to shit. I've repeated it 2 more times since then and still felt in the dumps so I went and got bloodwork done last week. I just got the results back today. My Dr. said that my levels are low for my age and she may want me to see an endocrinologist after we do further testing. I know that I respond to hcg because I feel awesome while on it I just would like to know if there's a way to keep that test boost up permanently?
You previously mentioned "back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine" you may to consider this again.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:08 PM
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So it can or can't be used on its own to raise test levels? I get the idea that you were trying to say that you couldn't help me use it to just get my levels up but technically the way you worded that sentence means you can help me?
Sorry that came out wrong, Using it alone just to get levels up is not something I can help with and not sure that would work, or would work but what happens after you stop ?.
Advise from a doc would be best...............11
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You previously mentioned "back in the day always followed up with a nolva/clomid pct and felt fine" you may to consider this again.
I'm gonna run this by the doc and give it another go before getting on something like androgel. I'm going to try Anthony Roberts 6 week PCT with a much lower dose of hcg taken with nolva and aromasin not to suppress my LH receptors and get bloodwork after. How long should I wait after this to get bloodwork?
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Can anybody tell me if it's possible to freeze HCG once it's been mixed?

This would really help me out
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:10 AM
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Can anybody tell me if it's possible to freeze HCG once it's been mixed?

This would really help me out
Didn't see this. answer is no. You can put IGF1 in the freezer because it won't freeze but don't freeze the HCG mix what you use and pitch the rest, it's cheap............11
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I'm like a sponge when reading your posts. I always learn something new every Time! Thanks for taking the time to share all of that!
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:39 AM
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I'm like a sponge when reading your posts. I always learn something new every Time! Thanks for taking the time to share all of that!
Your welcome. game is always changing and I still learn from this board......11
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Hi Everyone,

I’ve been out of the gym and off this site for about 5 or 6 years (I stopped counting after 4 ).
Has much changed over the last few years, where th regards PCT protocols?

I’m doing a hormone test today, and I just know it’s going to say I’m off.
I’ve not felt the same since my last cycle, in 2012.
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Things haven't changed much as far as PCT goes. As for me my PCT days were over years ago when I just decided to stay on permanently
I know many are still using the PCT that I've laid out in this thread with great success. ................11
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Things haven't changed much as far as PCT goes. As for me my PCT days were over years ago when I just decided to stay on permanently
I know many are still using the PCT that I've laid out in this thread with great success. ................11
What would you recommend for guys on TRT looking to keep testicular atrophy to a minimum with your experience? How much hcg? How often?
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Things haven't changed much as far as PCT goes. As for me my PCT days were over years ago when I just decided to stay on permanently
I know many are still using the PCT that I've laid out in this thread with great success. ................11
Thanks.
I would have have been surprised if much had changed. The old ways are the best ways.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:21 AM
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What would you recommend for guys on TRT looking to keep testicular atrophy to a minimum with your experience? How much hcg? How often?
The doses don't change. Always use the least amount that works for you.
250 mcg 2 x wk I like 500 mcg E5D, less needles that way, 300 mcg E5D might be enough for what your doing..............11
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:32 AM
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I would have have been surprised if much had changed. The old ways are the best ways.
Toremifene is becoming popular too but I think Clomid & Nolva will always be a choice. IGF1 & HGH will help keep muscle and help with recovery if in budget.............11
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Just finished a TrenA/TestP/EQ CYCLE. Never ran any hcg, but my question for the suggestion is I ran arimidex .5mgEOD throughout this cycle. I still have some on hand. Would it be good idea to still run it with the clomid I plan on running 50ED and some provicialis I have 27.5mgED until I am done with my pct? How long until I need to start the clomid, I see if u run hcg to wait until day 4 after last pin but I didn’t run hcg. Planning on a 4 week pct.
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Just finished a TrenA/TestP/EQ CYCLE. Never ran any hcg, but my question for the suggestion is I ran arimidex .5mgEOD throughout this cycle. I still have some on hand. Would it be good idea to still run it with the clomid I plan on running 50ED and some provicialis I have 27.5mgED until I am done with my pct? How long until I need to start the clomid, I see if u run hcg to wait until day 4 after last pin but I didnít run hcg. Planning on a 4 week pct.
Run the Adex for the 1st week of PCT then stop that and coninue on with the clomix. The Adex is fine at the beginning but will slow down your total recovery.
HCG is only for PRE PCT not during...................11
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