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Old 01-28-2011, 12:55 AM
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I'm glad to see this thread back up
I've seen alot of praise lately about SD over PP.
GoodGrip - I don't think you should worry about missing anything... that said I really liked DMT compared to many other orals. I think there were so many shitty batches out there that it muddied the resulting feedback.

SD seemes more harsh on the system than Halodrol50 clones, Epi, and the 19-nors that were/are otc, not to mention dbol, t-bol, var, and primo all seem to have less sides. I think a few give gains comparable to that of SD. Of course YMMV

We need to pester our sponsor to carry madol
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cool got several bottles of it.
wish I had some.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:04 PM
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Awesome stuff, if you got some use it!
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:37 PM
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wow ijust looked and i still have 4 cell and a few pheravol
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A nonaromatizing Testosterone? Sounds great for Tren or maybe stacking with another oral for a kicker?
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:55 PM
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A nonaromatizing Testosterone? Sounds great for Tren or maybe stacking with another oral for a kicker?
IME madol is anything but non aromatizing. It's not as wet as dbol, but you will gain some water with this AAS for certain. It is possible that contamination with the 3-ene isomer is what gives some batches of madol a wet disposition.
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IME madol is anything but non aromatizing. It's not as wet as dbol, but you will gain some water with this AAS for certain. It is possible that contamination with the 3-ene isomer is what gives some batches of madol a wet disposition.
Good to know, the profile i was reading gave that info.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:23 PM
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on week 3 of phera currently. i love this stuff. did 30mg first 3 days, upped to 45mg til the end of week 2, then dropped back to 30mg at 2.5 week. 45mg is sick but i started getting headaches. virtually side-free for me at 30mg.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:28 PM
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on week 3 of phera currently. i love this stuff. did 30mg first 3 days, upped to 45mg til the end of week 2, then dropped back to 30mg at 2.5 week. 45mg is sick but i started getting headaches. virtually side-free for me at 30mg.
damn good post, just helped me decide
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on week 3 of phera currently. i love this stuff. did 30mg first 3 days, upped to 45mg til the end of week 2, then dropped back to 30mg at 2.5 week. 45mg is sick but i started getting headaches. virtually side-free for me at 30mg.
which phera you running bro? CEL p-plex?
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which phera you running bro? CEL p-plex?
Yeah its on the way
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:03 PM
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Yeah its on the way
you said 45mg? that must be the old school CEL phera when they had the 15mg caps before switching to the 10mg's. niceeee!!!!!
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:51 PM
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which phera you running bro? CEL p-plex?
Let us know how the CEL P-Plex works... I'd like to think their stock isn't underdosed atm
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:53 PM
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Let us know how the CEL P-Plex works... I'd like to think their stock isn't underdosed atm
i used it years ago and didnt realy like phera all that much. sd is better but the sides suck ass. i only take up to 20mg/ed of sd
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:14 AM
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you said 45mg? that must be the old school CEL phera when they had the 15mg caps before switching to the 10mg's. niceeee!!!!!
I've got one bottle of the 15mg and two of the 10mg.
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:20 AM
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I tried P Plex for the first time two months ago and loved the results. Muscles were full/pumped all of the time and strength went way up and no lethargy like i got from Superdrol. I liked Superdrol when it first came out too - havent gotten much from the clones though.
Wished i'd gotten stocked up on p plex b4 the ban - damn.
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:20 PM
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I've got one bottle of the 15mg and two of the 10mg.
WORTH STOCKING UP ON
I tried the 15's 3x daily and lost my appetite and pumps were crazy to the point of painful. Felt like I was going to OD on taurine. At 30mg this stuff has all the goods and none of the ills...
... except that pesky heart enlargement correlation
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:09 PM
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To whoever asked and was told they were wrong I do remember reading that the original FIRST RUN of the halodrol 50 actually contained 25mgs of the compound that is in the h-drol and other clones + 25mgs DMT. So yes this was in the original halodrol 50 if memory serves me correctly.

But anywho, I remember hearing that p-plex is wet and possibly had progesterone effects.... Is this true cuz I dont see it mentioned here and I would have tried it but anything that has progesterone effects makes my nipples itch.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:17 PM
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...I do remember reading that the original FIRST RUN of the halodrol 50 actually contained 25mgs of the compound that is in the h-drol and other clones + 25mgs DMT...
I have never heard this nor did I see this on any of ingredients on the first boxes. I am not saying Rich didn't spike his formula, I just haven't heard halodrol was a 50/50 split originally.

I have seen people relate DMT to being a 19-nor, but it isn't. It can not aromatize (on paper), but can cause a little water retention and itchy nips for some. I'm with Grow-Bot and am thinking that some of these individual's sides might be from contaminants / side reaction products mixed with real DMT. I never really saw those types of sides with DMT. I kept caber handy and took P-5-P and ginko just in case, but didn't get the sides I get with something like Dbol or Deca.
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I stocked up on these but never used it.I cant figure out if I want to run p plex or dbol as a kick start in my winter bulk.
run the p-plex bro before it expires to get the most out of it, imho...most ppl run 30mg/ed
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I stocked up on these but never used it.I cant figure out if I want to run p plex or dbol as a kick start in my winter bulk.
Some will decry this as heresy, but on a mg per mg basis, Madol is stronger than Dbol. Think of it as a less wet slightly more potent dbol.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:20 PM
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Some will decry this as heresy, but on a mg per mg basis, Madol is stronger than Dbol. Think of it as a less wet slightly more potent dbol.
This isn't heresy at all. Great simplification of it IMHO...
... that said take the DMT

Does anyone have any clinical or anecdotal info on the heart issues with dmt? I had NO BP issues or cholesterol while on it compared to some others.
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Old 07-23-2011, 03:14 PM
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To whoever asked and was told they were wrong I do remember reading that the original FIRST RUN of the halodrol 50 actually contained 25mgs of the compound that is in the h-drol and other clones + 25mgs DMT. So yes this was in the original halodrol 50 if memory serves me correctly.
I heard the same (pretty sure it was from a guy who was a Gaspari rep at the time).
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Does anyone have any clinical or anecdotal info on the heart issues with dmt?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...78427406013841

It says it right in the middle of the abstract, along with other cool info.
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:25 PM
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That is the study I read. The sample size was small if I remember and it was a mouse based trail, but still not cool. this is my biggest concern with this compound. To the point were I stop taking all stims and go light on the cardio when I'm on it.
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