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Old 03-31-2010, 05:28 PM
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Default Pheraplex/Desoxymethyltestosterone/Madol

Desoxymethyltestosterone

• Androgenic 187
• Anabolic 1,200
• Standard Methyltestosterone (oraI)
• Chemical Names 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androst-2-ene
• Estrogenic Activity - none
• Progestational Activity - no data available

Madol (desoxymethyltestosterone; also known as DMT) is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid"of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone andTHG.

Structurally, desoxymethyltestosterone is a very unique compound. Its name might imply it is a derívate of methyltestosterone, and perhaps in a way it is. The association between the two steroids, however, is very loose,for certain.The very different thing about DMT is that it is structurally a 2-ene compound, lacking the 3-keto group present on nearly all commercial anabolic steroids. This lack of a 3-keto group, however, does not mean Madol is a weak compound. Quite the contrary, Madol is an exceedingly potent oral steroid. According to the standard rat assays, Madol exceeds methyltestosterone in oral potency by a factor of 12116. At the same time, its androgenicity is recorded to be only 87% higher than methyltestosterone, giving Madol an extremely favorable anabolic to androgenic ratio (measured to be nearly 6.5:1). The resulting steroid is considerably different than methyltestosterone, a drug which is both significantly weaker mg for mg than Madol,and possesses a much more formidable androgenic component.

Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral.

Although Madol was never sold as a commercial prescription anabolic steroid, it did appear on the sports nutrition market in 2005 under the brand name ErgoMax LMG (Lean Mass Generator). The compound has subsequently appeared under other brand names, as its popularity and true identity spread among consumers (and other companies decided to cash in on them). This drug is sort of in a grey area legally. It is not yet listed on any State or Federal law as an anabolic steroid, and therefore is not subject to criminal possession laws (you can't get busted for owning or using DMT). But at the same time, it is clearly synthetic in nature, and therefore not quite legal to sell as a dietary supplement. At the time of writing this, the FDA has acknowledged the presence of DMT in the supplement market, and is in the process of evaluating and removing such products from commerce.

Manufacture of this unique steroid is not extremely easy. The first hints of this came from the World Anti-Doping Agency, who reported that the confiscated sample of DMT was shown to be very impure upon analysis. It was principally comprised of four different steroidal components, DMT, its unmethylated analog, and isomers of these two steroids bearing a 3-ene structure instead of 2-ene. DMT is likely the only effective anabolic steroid in the group, making it obvious the blend is an issue of manufacturing contamination and not functionality. The same issue appeared again when Don Catlin and his staff at the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory began working on methods for detecting DMT in urine. The procedure required they obtained samples of DMT to work with, which was accomplished by chemically modifying the available starting material 5-alpha-androst-2-ene-17-one. Even the laboratory material they had to work with was shown to be a mixture of both 2-ene and 3-ene isomers (in approximately a 4:1 ratio) upon analysis, and unexpected but now obviously consistent result. It is unknown if any pure DMT product has been produced to date, so the same purity issues are likely to appear in other (perhaps all) DMT-containing products.

An effective oral daily dosage for Madol would fall in the range of 5-15mg (males). Given that purity of this material seems to remain an issue, this could relate to as much as 10-30mg per day (or more) of any product containing DMT. Some may be tempted to go higher than this in dosage, but should keep in mind the liver toxicity of the agent (and at the very least plan for regular blood tests). This steroid is also very versatile one, and will stack well with a variety of other compounds for either cutting or bulking purposes. Health conscious individuals will want to stick with non-alkylated injectable compounds, so that overall hepatotoxicity is minimized. For mass, this could mean stacking 10mg daily with 200-600mg weekly of an injectable testosterone. Deca-Durabolin or Equipoise can alternately be used for more muscle definition. Here, a six week run combining 400mg per week of nandrolone or boldenone ester with lOmg daily of DMT should impart significant tissue gains without excessive androgenic or estrogenic side effects. It is of note that this steroid is mild enough to be used by women, although the dosage should be much smaller (only 1-2mg per day). Still, it is a potent steroid, and as such there is no guarantee virilizing side effects will not occur.
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cool got several bottles of it.
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cool got several bottles of it.
I found 2 bottles of P-Plex in my cabinet this past weekend.
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Can someone chime in on the heart issues with this compound. It is supposed to stem from the lack of the keto group. I found that I had no perceivable heart problems, BP and heart rate stayed normal both times I used it.
Two updates on the original article are of course it has been banned now and I thought the isomer contamination had been resolved through different/better synthesis and manufacturing. CEL put out certificates of analysis with their baches. P-Plex ROCKED!!
I still found the sweet spot was 30mg daily not 15 as bill suggested.
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I found 2 bottles of P-Plex in my cabinet this past weekend.
The original?
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Can someone chime in on the heart issues with this compound. It is supposed to stem from the lack of the keto group. I found that I had no perceivable heart problems, BP and heart rate stayed normal both times I used it.
Two updates on the original article are of course it has been banned now and I thought the isomer contamination had been resolved through different/better synthesis and manufacturing. CEL put out certificates of analysis with their baches. P-Plex ROCKED!!
I still found the sweet spot was 30mg daily not 15 as bill suggested.
Characterisation of the pharmacological profile of desoxymethyltestosterone (Madol), a steroid misused for doping.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17254722

Remarkably, treatment with DMT, in contrast to TP, resulted in a significant increase of the heart weight.

This is unfortunately just the abstract, I would like to see a graph contrasting how much "significant" is in comparison with Test prop.

If it is of great significance, avoiding stimulants and high intensity cardio for the duration of use may be a wise decision. From experience, this is the only oral steroid that not only gives me a burst of energy an hour out from taking it, it also raised my BP +20/+10 and my pulse by about +20bpm.

It is possible that Iforce Pheraflex was contaminated with a stimulant, I found that brand to be comparable to taking an amphetamine.
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Underrated product IMO. Got excellent wood from phera plex too. Some people raised concerns about CEL but I got the AX version and only needed 20mg daily.
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I love the stuff
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i have some but i always though it was more of a bulker. hmmm...i snapped some up before the ban along with some epi and mdrol.
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Underrated product IMO. Got excellent wood from phera plex too. Some people raised concerns about CEL but I got the AX version and only needed 20mg daily.
Yet another reason to love Phera.
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I have CEL's phera. any reviews on that one?
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Very good reviews.
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I haven't had any issues with any of CEL's products and P-Plex was my favorite.
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seems like a great way to kick off a simple test cycle....

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great read, thanks bud! there should also be a superdrol (methasteron) profile on here too
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great read, thanks bud! there should also be a superdrol (methasteron) profile on here too
No problem. I will cook up a Superdrol post, with the help of William Llewellyn, real soon.
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The original Halodrol 50 was pheraplex right?
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no bro, hdrol and pp are 2 totally different compounds. pp is a lot stronger, but sd is stronger than it
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Yes it was. This is a scheduled Steroid now.
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Ive got some Superdrone from Primordial Performance. Should I be jealous because I dont have Pheraplex? Meaning, if I run SD will I feel like im missing out on something ?
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nah sd is better imho
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nah,hdrol was similar compound to t-bol.
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